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  • ricemanff
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 158

    wolf primers

    So I have been told to stay away from wolf primers in the past, but now I am running out of primers. They are for the 223. Whats your take? I have 1000 rounds of wolf 223 ammo that has a 40-50% failure rate from a couple years ago now I am worried their primers will be the same. Some info would be great
  • #2
    russt
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1039

    I've had nothing but great luck with them. Never any issues and I've used a few thousand.

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    • #3
      damndave
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2008
      • 10858

      Never an issue with them for me.

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      • #4
        kblack583
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 704

        Gone through thousands of them. Not one issue.

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        • #5
          XDRoX
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4420

          There is no better primer for 223.
          Chris
          <----Rimfire Addict


          Originally posted by Oceanbob
          Get a DILLON...

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          • #6
            tiller
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 794

            Just make sure you seat them deep enough!
            .223 & .308 brass processing

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            • #7
              shooterbill
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1096

              Same experience here. They have worked great. When they are back in stock for cheap, I'm buying a few cases.

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              • #8
                Bill Steele
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 5028

                Probably the most important lesson you have learned isn't whether Wolf's will work (they will work great), but that whoever told you to stay away from them should be ignored for any future advice.

                Have fun, good luck.
                When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                • #9
                  gregshin
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1259

                  the only small issue i have...which is very minor is that the wolf SPP is bit oversized so it takes a lil more force to squeeze it in the primer cup. other then that it goes bang everytime.

                  I use stock springs and firing pins btw.

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                  • #10
                    ricemanff
                    Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 158

                    Well I have been a little hesitant to use any wolf products after I bought a couple thousand rounds that were shipped in 1000 rd packs. The problem was that I would have at least 1 misfire every mag I went thru. After that I have swore off wolf, I am just a little apprehensive in using their product again

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                    • #11
                      AlexKintner
                      Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 171

                      The magnum srp are a little hard to seat also. I gave up on them.

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                      • #12
                        Dark Mod
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 4284

                        Never had a problem with wolf primers, been through well over 20k of them. I dont even buy other primers anymore (maybe Tula if wolf isnt available).

                        Come to think of it, ive never had any problems with wolf ammunition either. They make great stuff.

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                        • #13
                          Fyathyrio
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1082

                          Credible complaints concerning Wolf/Tula primers I've seen in the past are FTF due to light primer strikes in striker style weapons that have been modified. I've used Wolf since the great component drought of '09 and have not had any issues at all. Harder cup means it takes a little more effort to seat properly.
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                          • #14
                            klewan
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 3031

                            Originally posted by ricemanff
                            So I have been told to stay away from wolf primers in the past, but now I am running out of primers. They are for the 223. Whats your take? I have 1000 rounds of wolf 223 ammo that has a 40-50% failure rate from a couple years ago now I am worried their primers will be the same. Some info would be great
                            Didn't you do any troubleshooting? If I had a 50% FTF rate, I'd be swapping ammo, parts, operators until I figured it out. You should too...Russian primers are fine.

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                            • #15
                              Wrangler John
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1799

                              I ordered 5K of the Wolf 223 Small Rifle primers, and so far have not had a single problem in Colt M-4 with a J.P. Enterprises trigger including the standard hammer spring. These primers are very consistent, as consistent as the Wolf Large Rifle primer. They seat very easily into the .204 Ruger and .223 Remington cases. My eye loop shows the cup to have a slightly beveled front edge and better finish than the Remington 7-1/2BR primers. The diameter of the 223 Small Rifle Wolf primer is exactly the same as the U.S. brands. My older lot of Wolf Large Rifle primers are hard to seat in Lapua, Nosler and Winchester brass, but have developed the smallest groups.

                              Failure to fire can be anything from the way the primers were handled (case lube, oily hands) to shallow seating or too much force in seating crushing the explosive pellet, to the most confusing of all: a primer only load. I had that happen a time or two where the powder charge was omitted. The hammer dropped with only a click. The primer was dented and slightly backed out (because the case didn't expand) and the bullet hadn't moved. Upon breaking the cartridge down, it was discovered the primer fired, but without any powder the bullet remained in place. Since then I installed powder check systems on the progressive press. This is not a problem with single stage loading as each case can be visually inspected for powder content. One other problem can be in using reclaimed primers, or primers that were improperly stored in hot or humid conditions.
                              Last edited by Wrangler John; 04-04-2013, 9:43 AM.

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