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  • Dark Mod
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 4284

    Loving the Dillon Super Swage

    Have no idea how ive lived without it this long. Looking back at how i used to use the chamfer tool i felt like suth a neanderthal.
  • #2
    joelogic
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2008
    • 6593

    When I first started out I was using a rock chucker to swage. After about 100 pieces, I said, "Yea right, there has to be a better way."

    Enter the super swage.
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    • #3
      jdmstuff
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 761

      Just got mine and it works well.

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      • #4
        Divernhunter
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2010
        • 8753

        I started with a hand cutter then a RCBS press swager. Once I bought the Dillon unit never used the others again.
        A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
        NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
        SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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        • #5
          DRAB_81
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2482

          I haven't had a chance (or a need) to open mine yet, but I'll be doing this as soon as I do.

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          • #6
            ocabj
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7924

            I'll never understand why anyone that reloads milsurp brass never buys a Dillon Super Swage. Just shell out the $100 and get it.

            I bought mine back in 2005 or so because I got two 5-gallon buckets of once fired Lake City 5.56 direct from a military source and thought to myself, "No way in Hell am I going to ream over 5K pieces of brass with a hand tool."

            Even though I haven't used my Super Swage since then, I still have it. It's a tool. I'll use it again eventually.

            Distinguished Rifleman #1924
            NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
            NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

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            • #7
              morrow
              Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 377

              Originally posted by ocabj
              I'll never understand why anyone that reloads milsurp brass never buys a Dillon Super Swage. Just shell out the $100 and get it.
              Because using a good quality chamfer tool or reamer is faster, easier, and cheaper.

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              • #8
                klewan
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 3031

                Originally posted by morrow
                Because using a good quality chamfer tool or reamer is faster, easier, and cheaper.
                On another reloading forum, one of the Dillion Lovers was complaining about having to readjust the rod because the Lake City brass was from different years and the case head thickness varied. The instructions from Dillion point out you will have to adjust it for various brass.(I checked) Yet none of the other DL's ever mention the sorting, just ram it thru.....A countersink I already owned, with a cordless drill is the way to go. No sorting, no blowing $120, fast and easy.

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                • #9
                  tiller
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 794

                  Reaming brass is a quick way to ruin primer pockets! I've seen this a lot now that people over do it... And then you end up ruining 1000 pieces of brass just because you think it's the "cheap and right way" to do things....


                  Spend the money and save your brass
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                  • #10
                    ocabj
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 7924

                    I've never been a fan of reaming primer pockets because reaming actually involves removing brass, and there's the chance of removing material such that it becomes a non-concentric primer pocket (and off-center).

                    I like swaging because you're simply 'swaging' the primer crimp away, yet still retaining the material in primer pocket area.

                    Distinguished Rifleman #1924
                    NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
                    NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

                    https://www.ocabj.net

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                    • #11
                      Bill Steele
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 5028

                      Originally posted by ocabj
                      I've never been a fan of reaming primer pockets because reaming actually involves removing brass, and there's the chance of removing material such that it becomes a non-concentric primer pocket (and off-center).

                      I like swaging because you're simply 'swaging' the primer crimp away, yet still retaining the material in primer pocket area.
                      I agree, primer pockets loosen up soon enough anyway, better to put the brass back where it belongs than remove it.
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                      • #12
                        morrow
                        Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 377

                        Originally posted by ocabj
                        I've never been a fan of reaming primer pockets because reaming actually involves removing brass, and there's the chance of removing material such that it becomes a non-concentric primer pocket (and off-center).

                        I like swaging because you're simply 'swaging' the primer crimp away, yet still retaining the material in primer pocket area.
                        The best by far is using a chamfer tool. Super fast and easy and it doesn't touch any of the metal that the primer comes in contact with when seated.

                        Swaging can loosen up a primer pocket, even slightly, whereas a chamfer tool has no chance of that unless you're chamfering WAY too deep.

                        Chamfering also makes it easier for the primer to center when seating.

                        Oh, it's also way faster and way cheaper.

                        I'm not saying the Dillon Super Swage is a bad tool, it's better than some others, but it's slow (even when modded), very expensive, and depending on your situation it can require several adjustments.

                        EDIT:
                        Oh and to the people that hate reaming, it depends on the quality of the reamer and if you're using it right. A couple turns (as in 2-3) with a reamer, centered, is all you need. Most of the youtube videos show people using reamer tools incorrectly and then they ruin their brass. If this is happening to you with a reamer i suggest buying a better reamer and/or learning to use it correctly.
                        Last edited by morrow; 03-23-2013, 7:31 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Romanova
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 9

                          For those of you who recently ordered a Super Swage from Dillion, what was the wait time? Going on two weeks waiting for mine now...

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                          • #14
                            waxer
                            Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 338

                            I use the RCBS swager die in my Lee single stage and couldn't be happier. It doesn't matter if the LC head thicknesses change from year to year. I slap one in, press down, lift up and pull the case off. After the brass is deswagged, you won't have to use the tool on it again. Get more brass that needs swagging, then yeah I'll have to dust it off and use it one time again. Having 4k+ pieces of 556 LC brass on hand, I doubt I'll need to break out the tool for quite some time.
                            Member - NRA, GOA, CAPRC
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