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  • #31
    CenterX
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1721

    Hmmm. Has the manufacure had any other complaints?

    Once had a cracked firing pin that intermittently worked. It was on a lever action.

    Also had spring issues with a new spring as well. Took the old one and lined it up next to the new one and lo and behold the new one was a tad shorter. Put the old one back in and the problem went away.
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    • #32
      CenterX
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 1721

      Got to run. I hope you get it solved.
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      • #33
        HK Dave
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2008
        • 5737

        Don't have any 308 specific gauges so tried to measure a best as I could with a caliper (probably horrific measurements).

        -Ammo that didn't go bang: Shoulder 1.557 to 1.717
        -Factory ammo: Shoulder 1.567-1.712

        You know what, it's time to pick up everything I need to press my own 308, this is getting stupid. :P Got everything loaded on my Brownells cart.. now to figure out bushings for my Redding Type S dies. Course the precision mic is back-ordered.
        Last edited by HK Dave; 03-23-2013, 11:28 AM.

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        • #34
          Pacilander
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 111

          My vote is still primer! But it's always a good idea to hand load when able. Not the best time to start though lol.

          I am still curious who made the loads.

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          • #35
            cowboyup
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 756

            You can use the hornady headspace gauge with a caliper in place of the case mic. Great call on reloading. Forrester makes great precision dies and bushings too. Might be easier to get. Have several sets of the redding and Forrester and they both rock. Best of luck compadre. Glad your considering the reloading hobby too.

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            • #36
              xrMike
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2006
              • 7841

              I see some cratering in the primers that went off. I forget what that means, hot loads?

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              • #37
                Bill Steele
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 5028

                Originally posted by xrMike
                I see some cratering in the primers that went off. I forget what that means, hot loads?
                Yes, hot.
                When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                • #38
                  hanover67
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 83

                  The primers in the two unfired cases look as though thry are seated high in the pockets. If so, perhaps the firing pin pushed them in further, and they absorbed some of the impact in movement. They were dented, but not enough to crush the anvil. Still, several repeated firings should have set them off. I'd be curious enough to dis-assemble a couple to see what I could learn from this batch of ammo. And, I'll bet the manufacturer would like to know also so the problem isn't repeated.

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                  • #39
                    Heretodaygonetomorrow
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 582

                    2X on the high primers.

                    But the successive strikes should have set them off.

                    I'd say what you have there is defective primers.

                    Ammo that has been stuck several times and has not gone off is dangerous in it's current condition. Each time a primer is stuck, it becomes more sensitive, and there is the possibility that it could go off, without much of a strike.

                    I'd recommend pulling the bullets on a couple to verify that there is powder present. Could be the round was loaded without powder, and the bullet was so tightly crimped that the primer going off did not budge it from the casing.

                    If there is powder present, you need to deactivate the rounds to make them safe before shipping or storing them.

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                    • #40
                      bruceflinch
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 40137

                      Originally posted by FLIGHT762
                      O/P, If you do decide to pull any bullets, DON"T use a kinetic puller, use a collet puller. Kinetic puller could cause one of the dented primers to fire.
                      Good time to own a collet puller!
                      Good luck.
                      Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                      I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

                      Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

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                      • #41
                        HK Dave
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5737

                        Ammo maker sending me a UPS label. Said they will change out the primers. I had no idea you could change primers on a loaded round... how interesting.

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                        • #42
                          joelogic
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2008
                          • 6593

                          You can't. They will either replace the ammo or break them down and reload them.
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                          • #43
                            Bill Steele
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 5028

                            Originally posted by HK Dave
                            Ammo maker sending me a UPS label. Said they will change out the primers. I had no idea you could change primers on a loaded round... how interesting.
                            Stand up vendor.
                            When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                            • #44
                              HK Dave
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 5737

                              Hope the bullets don't get scratched on the pull. :P

                              I wonder how long this will take. ::sigh::

                              Yep, def time to order dies for 308.

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