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  • ThE_LoNgShOt
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 815

    Hoarding??? Says who...?

    So I have a buddy who can't go shooting because he is all but out of ammo at the moment. We got to talking about how much I have on hand. I told him that I bought some every time I got paid and it added up over time. I happened to hit bass pro shops last week at the perfect time and got 400 rounds of 5.56 which is what sent him over the edge.... He said its guys like me that hoard all the ammo that keep others from being able to get it. He was half joking and probably half serious. But it got me thinking..... I am pretty well stocked, but it's not like I'm tripping over the stuff. And, I DO shoot at least twice a month. So... Can you have TOO much ammo? If you've got a LOT on hand, would you pass up a good deal on more if you just happened to find it so that someone else who needed it more than you might get it?
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    bruss01
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2006
    • 5336

    Originally posted by ThE_LoNgShOt
    So I have a buddy who can't go shooting because he is all but out of ammo at the moment. We got to talking about how much I have on hand. I told him that I bought some every time I got paid and it added up over time. I happened to hit bass pro shops last week at the perfect time and got 400 rounds of 5.56 which is what sent him over the edge.... He said its guys like me that hoard all the ammo that keep others from being able to get it. He was half joking and probably half serious. But it got me thinking..... I am pretty well stocked, but it's not like I'm tripping over the stuff. And, I DO shoot at least twice a month. So... Can you have TOO much ammo? If you've got a LOT on hand, would you pass up a good deal on more if you just happened to find it so that someone else who needed it more than you might get it?
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    And a deal is what you make of it.

    Was the ammo you bought worth more to you than the money you spent? Really think about that for a moment. Think of all the other things you could have bought with that money. Was not doing or having those things worth the sacrifice?

    If you said "yes" then I think you made a good buy. You weren't "hoarding" in the sense of buying it because it was there. You were buying it because you felt like you would be glad later you had bought it, and didn't have "enough" already - and it was worth the sacrifice of whatever else you could have done with that money.

    That said, if you're buying just because "everybody wants it NOW" and you are caught up in the frenzy... then think about another shooter (maybe a young guy or gal who wasn't into firearms 3 years ago when they were in high school). Look around you and think about the people who really want to practice - not guys who love a big BANG and are just playing at the range - but young people who feel like they need the skill and their time is drawing short... and ask yourself... can I help them?

    Now the question... did you buy it because you need it? Or because everybody is in a frenzy and you saw it and just had to have it? Only you can answer that one.
    The one thing worse than defeat is surrender.

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    • #3
      ThE_LoNgShOt
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 815

      I see your point.... No, I didn't spend money I didn't have. The price I paid was more than reasonable, pretty much in line with pre frenzy prices. I've never felt like buying ammo was a bad investment. For me, the picture below pretty much sums it up.

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      • #4
        unclejesse
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 844

        its always good to stock up, find them cheap and stock them deep!

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        • #5
          bcrich
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 1159

          I've helped out many of my new shooter buddies because of my collection of ammo.... Not hoarding! I will keep collecting.

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          • #6
            Kinsel83
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 987

            Its not my fault people didn't stock up. If people had half of a brain, they would of seen the writing on the wall. Maybe next time people will be more prepared.

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            • #7
              Oceanbob
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2010
              • 12720

              I consider all AMMO an investment for the long haul.

              I've always thought that. I often wonder if 40,000 rounds is enough....
              May the Bridges I burn light the way.

              Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

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              • #8
                Cheap Shot
                Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 200

                writing on the wall?

                If anything I think more people saw the writing this time around and that is why the 'panic' started earlier and is lasting longer.

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                • #9
                  RayB
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 137

                  Originally posted by ThE_LoNgShOt
                  Can you have TOO much ammo?
                  Ask your friend if he can have too much money...

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                  • #10
                    koehn,jim
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 643

                    The only problem I see is where you live, 10000 rounds in the country is fine but in an apartment, it might not be. Your local fire marshall has rules about how much you can have. I am not saying I agree with these rules but please check them to stay out of trouble.

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                    • #11
                      Whiterabbit
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 7594

                      Originally posted by ThE_LoNgShOt
                      So... Can you have TOO much ammo? If you've got a LOT on hand, would you pass up a good deal on more if you just happened to find it so that someone else who needed it more than you might get it?
                      To answer your last question first, yes. My needs are small. And may God bless those willing to sell me small qty out of their personal stash just to keep me shooting as well when I, for example, run out of gas checks since I go through them one box every couple years and didn't anticipate a shortage.

                      More important is your first question.

                      If you:

                      hoarded 1,000,000 rounds and cycle through them day after day or week after week, no.

                      hoarded 10,000 rounds and refuse to shoot them because of the shortage for fear of running out, yes you have too much ammo.

                      hoarded 500 rounds of ammo and you shoot 10 rounds a year, and are thinking about not hunting this year because of the shortage, yes you have too much.

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                      It's not about how much you've hoarded, it's whether the hoard is for your insulation, or your personal feeling of wellbeing. If hoarding insulates you from the current spikes, more power to you. I'll see you at the range. If your hoarding only makes you feel good, yes you engaged in erroneous speculation.

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                      • #12
                        guns4funca
                        Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 393

                        Any ammo bought a head of time is a huge investment.

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                        • #13
                          Divernhunter
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2010
                          • 8753

                          Ammo is not an investment to me. It is something I use and shoot for fun or hunting. I usually buy reloading stuff but do buy mil surplus for the C&R guns. I woould also buy comercial ammo when priced right for my use. I bought it when I had extra money. I am still using stuff bought 10+ years ago. I have also loaned ammo and reloading stuff to friends. I have also given ammo and reloading stuff to others to help them out. Now I have to do so less as my supply drops and I do not work anymore.
                          It is not hoarding when I shoot often. Especially when I bought and stocked up before the panic this or the last time.
                          I have always said you cannot have too much ammo, reloading supplies or firearms
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                          • #14
                            Lead Waster
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 16650

                            Hoarding shmoarding. People who DIDN'T buy ammo are hoarding money aren't they?

                            You just converted money into ammo that's all.

                            Also, it's a consumable item. Like hoarding beans or taco shells or whatever. Would your buddy be happier if you shot up all your ammo so you didn't have any?

                            This reminds me of my kids when I buy them each a bag of chips. One of them eats really fast and when her bag is done, she asks her sister for some of hers. When her sister says no, the first one says "no fair! She has more" LOL. No honey, you ate yours already.
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                            • #15
                              WhiteFoxGT
                              Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 128

                              Originally posted by ThE_LoNgShOt
                              So I have a buddy who can't go shooting because he is all but out of ammo at the moment. We got to talking about how much I have on hand. I told him that I bought some every time I got paid and it added up over time. I happened to hit bass pro shops last week at the perfect time and got 400 rounds of 5.56 which is what sent him over the edge.... He said its guys like me that hoard all the ammo that keep others from being able to get it. He was half joking and probably half serious. But it got me thinking..... I am pretty well stocked, but it's not like I'm tripping over the stuff. And, I DO shoot at least twice a month. So... Can you have TOO much ammo? If you've got a LOT on hand, would you pass up a good deal on more if you just happened to find it so that someone else who needed it more than you might get it?
                              Your friend needs to understand that its not the hoarders that are making it hard for him to buy ammo. Its the people buying up the ammo to flip it for double the price. I have heard people say they don't even own a gun they just want to profit on the current market. We should stop paying these ridiculous prices, if we act together the prices and availability will be back to normal. Its just hard to get everyone on the same page.

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