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  • m2hbvic
    Member
    • Nov 2002
    • 151

    Dillon Carbide .223/.308 Dies???

    Hi everyone. Has anyone out there had any experience with the Dillon carbide rifle dies for .223 and .308??? Dillon says to lube the cases before resizing, even though the dies are carbide.

    I was wondering if anyone has gotten away with not lubing the brass and just running them through the carbide dies and never getting a stuck case???

    Also, was wondering how much easier (less effort) it is to resize rifle brass in the Dillon carbide rifle dies???
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    30Cal
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1487

    The required effort is quite a bit less. If you don't lube case, they will get stuck. Without a doubt.

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      Pokey
      Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 495

      Originally posted by 30Cal
      The required effort is quite a bit less. If you don't lube case, they will get stuck. Without a doubt.
      +1, I use One Shot dry film lube, works great.
      Pokey
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        6079Winston
        Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 368

        My understanding is that carbide rifle dies are supposed to last longer, such as for commercial reloading operations. Still need lube though. I learned yesterday that lubing big straight walled pistol rounds like .500 S&W makes sizing alot easier. The more you know.

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          1911su16b870
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          • Dec 2006
          • 7654

          Originally posted by 30Cal
          The required effort is quite a bit less. If you don't lube case, they will get stuck. Without a doubt.
          +2 stuck cases are such a pain...
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          • #6
            grywlfbg
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 988

            I have carbide dies for both .223 and .308. The Dillon video said to lube the cases so I always have. Never had a stuck case and I pick up random range brass. Why would you want to skip this step? I use the Dillon lube and it's super easy to deal with. And then after I've loaded the cartridges I tumble them in clean corn cob for 15 mins to get the lube off. Good as new

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              m2hbvic
              Member
              • Nov 2002
              • 151

              Thanks guys for all the info. Since they require less effort to run the case through, I guess I'll go ahead and buy those dies. Anything to make the re-sizing easier for me (had surgery on my hands 7 times for carpal tunnel/ganglion cysts/trigger finger, being a mechanic).

              Why would I want to skip the case lubing step? Same reason as anyone else: To save one more step in the reloading process that is a pain in the butt.
              Vic

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                CSACANNONEER
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                • Dec 2006
                • 44094

                Always lube all bottlenecked brass!
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                • #9
                  30Cal
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1487

                  Redding makes a carbide expander ball. That's where you get a lot of the benefit.

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                  • #10
                    Pokey
                    Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 495

                    Originally posted by grywlfbg
                    I have carbide dies for both .223 and .308. The Dillon video said to lube the cases so I always have. Never had a stuck case and I pick up random range brass. Why would you want to skip this step? I use the Dillon lube and it's super easy to deal with. And then after I've loaded the cartridges I tumble them in clean corn cob for 15 mins to get the lube off. Good as new
                    Careful tumbling loaded cartridges. I have read a couple of reports of this having undesirable/unsafe results. I'll have to look up the specifics but I think it had to do with the vibrational effects on the powder (especially stick powders). Yeah, yeah, I know....site your source, its gonna take some looking. Anyway just a heads up. That is why I use dry film lube, no stickiness.
                    Pokey
                    Chivalry is not dead! Its just that now when a man puts his coat down for a woman, its to keep her from getting her back wet.

                    "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."

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                    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

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