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  • Santa Cruz Armory
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 4357

    Reloading Wolf steel cases

    Ok!

    Why exactly can you NOT reload wolf steel cased ammo? I deprimed/ sized and trimmed a Wolf case just like a brass case, and all went fine. I haven't loaded any yet, but whats the reason I couldn't?
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    draconianruler
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1590

    You can reload it. I have seen pictures of people that did. I guess its not berden primed since you already deprimed it. Let us know how it goes if you do reload the steel case.
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    • #3
      1lostinspace
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2006
      • 7848

      Originally posted by BLFD1
      Ok!

      Why exactly can you NOT reload wolf steel cased ammo? I deprimed/ sized and trimmed a Wolf case just like a brass case, and all went fine. I haven't loaded any yet, but whats the reason I couldn't?
      How did you resize steel did you fullsize?
      There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there.

      PUREMMA
      MIXED MARTIAL ARTS ACADEMY

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      • #4
        jandmtv
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2007
        • 5800

        i think the newer polymer coated wolf cases can be reloaded, just not sure how safe it is to reload steel cases. i wonder if steel cases are more prone to neck splitting and head separation vs. brass.

        I would never do it, but out of curiosity, do keep us informed on how it goes. good luck.
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        • #5
          jandmtv
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2007
          • 5800

          Originally posted by 1lostinspace
          How did you resize steel did you fullsize?
          keep in mind that the wolf uses soft steel for their cases, so it is doable, but just because you can, doesnt mean that you should
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          • #6
            JeffM
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 4359

            Let us know what you come up with. I've been thinking about it because AKs eat pretty narly ammo just fine. Everyone seen the vid of the Pakistani gun markets where kids are seating bullets into cases with a small hammer?

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            • #7
              1lostinspace
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2006
              • 7848

              man I remember when wolf .223 was $99 1000 rounds
              There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there.

              PUREMMA
              MIXED MARTIAL ARTS ACADEMY

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              • #8
                ivanimal
                Janitors assistant
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Sep 2002
                • 14360

                Here is what I know about steel cases and reloading.
                1) steel is stronger than brass and may not obturate as easily and definitely as often. This is a bad thing.
                2)If there is no obturation the gases go backwards into the chamber. This is a bad thing.
                3) Steel has a far greater tensile strength, IE it does not bend as easily, with heat it becomes brittle. This is a bad thing
                4) Steel is hard on dies and chambers. This is not a good thing.
                5) Brass is plentiful, most steel is berdan primed, if it were reliable dont you think we would all already be doing it?
                6) I like my fingers and toes. Messing with case pressures is not my desire.

                I may be off, I am just stating what I know.
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                • #9
                  InFlamez
                  Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 188

                  The Wolf website does state that they're now producing some select rifle and pistol calibers with boxer primers, but it doesn't say anything about reloading. I suppose it's worth a try and I've considered it as well, but i wouldn't want to be the one to test the theory.
                  ...maybe the Mythbusters would be up to the test!?
                  Last edited by InFlamez; 04-14-2008, 12:13 AM.
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                  • #10
                    packnrat
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3939

                    not a metalergest but i would say ok to reloading steel cases, but as i understand it the dies will suffer from the steel, brass is a "softer" metal.

                    expect a stuck case or four.

                    lets us know how it turns out.

                    .
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                    • #11
                      9mmlaw
                      Member
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 254

                      The currrent issue of Shooting Times has an article about reloading Wolf cases, you may want to check it out.

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                      • #12
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                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11540

                        Originally posted by 9mmlaw
                        The currrent issue of Shooting Times has an article about reloading Wolf cases, you may want to check it out.
                        Have you read it? Does it say weather is a go or no go?..
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                        • #13
                          Santa Cruz Armory
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 4357

                          I'll give it a whirl next time I reload .223

                          Pics of a sized/deprimed, trimmed case.





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                          • #14
                            Fjold
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 22985

                            Steel cases work harden quickly and just from firing them and resizing them they get brittle. You will probably get only one or two reloads before you have to anneal them. You will probably split some cases no matter how often you anneal them also.

                            Annealing is different than brass also, you will have to find the correct temperature for the steel (higher than brass) and allow them to cool slowly in an oven.
                            Frank

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                            • #15
                              tankerman
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 24240

                              The Shooting Times article was about reloading Wolf steel straight wall 45-acp cases up to 3 times. Rifled cases are much different, I will not be reloading any steel cases and certainly not rifle cases that have shoulders and are put under approximately 3 times more pressure than the 45acp.

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