Dillon Super 1050 Question

[3rddimensiontacital2]

Does anybody who has a Dillon Super 1050 know if the carbide dies that it has reduces case prep? I was hoping that it would cut back any prep work to just cleaning, inspection and lubing.

[tiller]

Does anybody who has a Dillon Super 1050 know if the carbide dies that it has reduces case prep? I was hoping that it would cut back any prep work to just cleaning, inspection and lubing.

The only difference between the carbide and standard is strength?... And some people don't use lube with them... I would not recommend that!


Your wording makes it hard to understand what your asking?

[3rddimensiontacital2]

I guess my main goal was to not have to trim and resize the cases prior to them going into the reloading press. I want to mass produce ammo so minimizing prep work for the brass would be ideal

[Na-vah-duh]

The 1050 will resize. The advantage to carbide dies is you don't need to lube per say but a little will go a long way making for smoother process. (Lubrication is mandatory still with rifle cartriges) You'll still need to trim in a separate operation or go with dillons rapid trim for rifle carriages.

[noylj]

This reads as though it is NOT a 1050 question but a die question. The dies can be used in any press, except the SDB and some older proprietary presses.
The carbide dies for bottleneck cases are for ammunition manufacturers so the dies last for several million rounds.
They do NOT eliminate the need for case lube and serve NO purpose for anyone who doesn't plan to produce several million rounds. They keep telling ALL their customers this, but no body ever seems to listen and still DEMAND a carbide .223 or .308 die.
For bottleneck cases, you normally trim AFTER sizing. Thus, I have never seen a big advantage to a progressive press for bottleneck cases, unless you have Dillon's inline trimmer on your press. Standard bottleneck procedure for about 100 years has been:
resize/deprime
trim
prime
charge
seat bullet
This takes two dies and a bench-mount powder measure or three dies if you charge on the press.
EVERYONE sells carbide dies for pistol straight-wall cases. The only such cases that "need" case lube are 9x19 and 9x21, but I have never seen a need to lube these.

[3rddimensiontacital2]

Thank you for a very thorough response. so if I understand correctly, if I wish to reload military .308 brass on a 1050 then I will either need a Dillon inline trimmer or a seperate trimming station?

[tiller]

Thank you for a very thorough response. so if I understand correctly, if I wish to reload military .308 brass on a 1050 then I will either need a Dillon inline trimmer or a seperate trimming station?

Correct you need a separate process for trimming period... You don't want burs in your ammo and with the trimmer installed it takes up 3 stations

[RayB]

From Brianenos.com:

Are carbide rifle dies better than steel rifle dies?The main advantage of a carbide, rifle re-sizing die is longevity. In a recreational reloading environment - you'll never wear out a set of steel rifle dies.Even with a carbide re-sizing die, you still have to lube the brass to re-size rifle brass. And, because of the bottleneck case, you do not get the reduction in "handle effort" with a carbide rifle die that you do get with a carbide (straight-walled) pistol die.For those reasons, I don't recommend carbide rifle dies for anything other than a commercial loading environment (50,000+ rounds/year).

[joelogic]

As a note, the carbide rifle dies are much easier on the elbow. With the same lube I would say the carbide dies take half the effort as compared to steel dies.


To the op, if you don't know where the trimmer goes or what carbide dies are for it sounds like you need to do a lot of reading before you start "mass" producing. Not to be a jerk.