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  • GooseGun
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 59

    .223/5.56 Semi-Auto Full-Auto Reloading Dies

    I've been doing some research but I'd like a updated opinion. What are the best dies for progressive .223/5.56 meant for semi-auto or full-auto rifles?
  • #2
    joelogic
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2008
    • 6593

    There are only .223 dies and no such thing as dies meant for full auto guns.

    I like Dillon.
    Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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    • #3
      CityHunt3r
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 933

      Originally posted by joelogic
      There are only .223 dies and no such thing as dies meant for full auto guns.

      I like Dillon.
      I've read that if you plan on reloading for semiauto or full auto you should use a taper crimp to secure the bullet from moving. Most rcbs die sets.come with a tapered crimp die.
      I've also read that the tapered crimps are good for magnum loads too to prevent bullet creeping.

      Do your own research and decide for yourself.

      Some people even say the roll and tappered crimp aren't all that different its just based on preference, some bullets have a crimp line or groove I forget the term, and some dont.
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      • #4
        C3nt3rMa55
        Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 222

        Originally posted by CityHunt3r
        I've read that if you plan on reloading for semiauto or full auto you should use a taper crimp to secure the bullet from moving. Most rcbs die sets.come with a tapered crimp die.
        I've also read that the tapered crimps are good for magnum loads too to prevent bullet creeping.

        Do your own research and decide for yourself.

        Some people even say the roll and tappered crimp aren't all that different its just based on preference, some bullets have a crimp line or groove I forget the term, and some dont.
        Cannelure

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        • #5
          joelogic
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2008
          • 6593

          A lot of people don't even crimp for semi auto rifles, YMMV.

          As a side note, if you own a Full Auto gun I would only shoot factory ammo. Since the receiver is irreplaceable I would not risk it.
          Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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          • #6
            slopoke
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 509

            I think the OP is asking about brass that was shot out of a full auto or semi auto firearm? If that is the case, I've read that sometimes brass that has been shot out of a full auto firearm needs a small base die the first time, then the next time you reload that brass, a standard die will be fine.

            Me, I would first buy a standard die only, size with a standard die and check to see if it chambers in your firearm. If it dose not, then get a small base die.

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            • #7
              russt
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1039

              I recommend reading the abc's of reloading. It had good info in it.

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              • #8
                koehn,jim
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 643

                Slopoke buying two dies is an expensive way to learn, i use small base dies in any thing that is meant for a semi-auto. I had a slam fire once 25 years ago and never plan to repeat it. If you want to be sure, fl size with small base dies and use bullets with a cannelure and crimp the case to the groove. The military does it that way for a reason. Other ways will work and many people do them, me I want 100 percent fool proof ammo.

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                • #9
                  mark501w
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1699

                  small base rcbs.

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                  • #10
                    Tbrad10
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 25

                    For my AR I use the RCBS .223/5.56x45 SB T/C Die set. PN 11107
                    Sets the shoulder back so it feeds better. Loaded 1000's of rounds and have never had a FTF.

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                    • #11
                      slopoke
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 509

                      Originally posted by koehn,jim
                      Slopoke buying two dies is an expensive way to learn, i use small base dies in any thing that is meant for a semi-auto. I had a slam fire once 25 years ago and never plan to repeat it. If you want to be sure, fl size with small base dies and use bullets with a cannelure and crimp the case to the groove. The military does it that way for a reason. Other ways will work and many people do them, me I want 100 percent fool proof ammo.
                      Where in my post do I suggest buying two dies? I recommended that he or she buy a standard FL die, if the round dose not chamber, then I suggested getting a small base die. Why overwork your brass if you don't need to.

                      In regards to your slam fire issue, it was probably a case of the primer not seated below flush or soft primer, not because a small base die was not used. I can see a possible out of battery fire due to a round not chambering, because it was not sized enough, not a slam fire.
                      Last edited by slopoke; 03-18-2013, 2:02 AM.

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