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  • RAP66
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 84

    Dillon Precision - Which one????

    I've been a fan of the Dillon precision line for as long as I can remember. Their product support in my opinion is legendary

    I'm trying to figure out which reloading press will work for my needs. I have a "typical" assortment of pistols, 22, 9mm, 45acp, 357. In rifles I have 22, 5.56 & 308

    Which press will work for all of the calibers I currently have? 550B or 650?

    Everytime I try to sort through the options I always get lost in the caliber selections and give up on sorting it out.

    What do you suggest?

    Thanks

    Rich
  • #2
    GeoffLinder
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 2425

    .22 rimfire cannot be easily or properly reloaded. Otherwise all of your needs will be covered by the 550 or 650.

    If you are fairly new to reloading and/or you want to switch calibers fairly often then the 550 will be a much better choice as it's a lot easier to switch calibers than the 650. The 650 has more features but is more finicky to get setup and running right.

    Go to www.brianenos.com for best way to buy Dillon anywhere (even better than buying from Dillon direct).



    Call Brian Enos and ask his advice, you will not get better advice, help choosing or customer service anywhere.
    Last edited by GeoffLinder; 02-23-2013, 4:14 PM.

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    • #3
      Colt562
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2012
      • 5271

      I have the 550. I love it, cant comment on the 650.




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      • #4
        Bill Steele
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 5028

        I have a 550B and also love it. I think it was XDRox who first pointed out that the beauty of the 550 was its simplicity. Simplicity equates to reliability and ease of debug when things to go sideways. If you don'T plan on getting a casefeeder, then the 550 is a no brainer.

        On the other hand, if you plan on getting all the bells and whistles, case feeder, on press trimming, etc. The 650 will shine.

        Call Brian Enos (you can get it from Geoff's link above), lay out what you want to do, how much you will be loading (round up because when you start reloading you will shoot more) and he will tell you what your best choice is. Brian will not over sell you (in fact, he will likely try and talk you into the 550 versus the more expesive 650). After the call, you will be glad you called him.
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        • #5
          XDRoX
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4420

          Bill said it perfectly. If you want a case feeder then get the 650. If you don't require that type of speed the 550b will do everything you need.

          Don't listen to the ones that say you need auto indexing or a 5th station. IMO you don't. And although they make a case feeder for the 550b it doesn't work well.

          What I want most in a reloading machine is reliability. I know I can walk into my garage and load 500 rounds with minimal setup and no hiccups. The 550b excels at that. Truly a 3 minute change over time between calibers if you have full conversions.
          Last edited by XDRoX; 02-23-2013, 4:58 PM.
          Chris
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          Originally posted by Oceanbob
          Get a DILLON...

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          • #6
            Horton Fenty
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 921

            I have the 650 and love it. I picked it over the 550 because I wanted something that will case feed rifle. Another vote for calling Enos.

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            • #7
              RayB
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 137

              When it comes time to get the caliber conversions...http://gunwiki.net/apps/calconversion/

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              • #8
                madjack956
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 2617

                I can't comment on the 650 as I have not used one, but my 550 has handled all my needs for years with no hassles.

                I have never thought to myself on my way to the garage to reload that I was going to have to hassle with the machine.

                It really is a joy to work with because it is a well thought out, well made piece of equipment. And that joy is multiplied by knowing Dillon is behind you all the way.
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                • #9
                  Diabolus
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 4729

                  I prefer the 650, and caliber changes take 10-15 minutes tops when you are use to it.

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                  • #10
                    morrow
                    Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 377

                    I love my xl650, the case feeder + auto indexing really speeds up the process and reduces the amount of work you need to do. I also like the 5th station.

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57171

                      550 has lower total cost of ownership but lower rounds per hour.
                      550 are much cheaper and easier to tool up for additional cartridges.
                      550 are manual index so it is easier to load a squib or a double charge.
                      I load about 30 cartridges on my 550's.

                      650 is more expensive and will honestly produce twice as many rounds of ammo per hour when fully setup with a case feeder.
                      650 are not too hard to change between cartridge setups, but they are more expensive to re-tool than a 550.
                      650 has an option of a powder check die station that will sound an alarm if you run out of powder or somehow double charge a case.
                      With the auto index, it is very difficult to double charge a case.
                      I load about 6 different cartridges on my 650.

                      My main high volume presses are 1050's though.
                      They swage primer pockets right on the press.
                      I have one dedicated to 9mm and another dedicated to 223.
                      I never have to worry about setting up a machine for a run of ammo the night before a match as these two machines are always ready to walk up to one of them and start pulling the handle...
                      Randall Rausch

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                      • #12
                        Divernhunter
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2010
                        • 8753

                        I have two 650XL's and they are great. That said IF you do not have a single stage press you should get one. I still do most all rifle ammo on my single stage presses(4 of them) and you will find a single stage press very usefull.
                        A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                        NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
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                        • #13
                          madjack956
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 2617

                          Rockchuckers were $139.00 last month at Natchez. I bought one for decapping. Nice piece.
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                          • #14
                            DRAB_81
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 2482

                            I started with a Rockchucker, and eventually stepped up to the 650. I still use the Rockchucker for little stuff here & there, but the 650 does most of the work now. I have quick change setups for 9mm, 45 & 10mm, as well as 2 toolheads for 223 (1 for prep, 1 to load), and I'll eventually get a quick change setup for the priming system to switch between large & small primers. The 650 is a little more time consuming to do the initial die setup due to the auto indexing though. I have to keep shuffling the brass after it indexes, until I get the dies where I want them. Once it's squared away, it absolutely flies with the case feeder. The 550 is a great machine, but I'm definitely glad I chose the 650.

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                            • #15
                              Kevin Rohrer
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6

                              I have a 550 and used to have a 650. I stayed with the 550 due to the expense of caliber changes, the time needed to make them, the ease of correcting mistakes, and the increased safety of the manual index.

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