For awhile I've been loading 4198 for my 45-70 loads, and even at the lower ends of the scale pushing the 410 grain projectile around 12-1400 fps was just un forgiving on my shoulder (out of my 1895CB and my Buffalo Classic - both with metal buttplates).
I had read about a lot of cast shooters using Unique, around 11-13 grains under a 405 grain cast bullet and that speeds are below 1000 fps that produce almost zero recoil.
Recently I had tried out some loads with this recipe and while the 11-12 grain loads were very slow (literally *bang*....................then clang). I have no chrono, but assume the shots must be moving in the 900 fps range.
Accuracy wasn't great so I started working up - I found a great load today of 13.5 grains of unique with the 405 cast bullets. Great thing is they shoot really well out of both my guns.
I shot for around 3 hours today, putting around 90 rounds of 45-70 down range. Shoulder doesn't feel like I did anything out of the ordinary.
I've only been reloading for about a year - and today was the first time I really felt like my reloads worked like magic.
I had read about a lot of cast shooters using Unique, around 11-13 grains under a 405 grain cast bullet and that speeds are below 1000 fps that produce almost zero recoil.
Recently I had tried out some loads with this recipe and while the 11-12 grain loads were very slow (literally *bang*....................then clang). I have no chrono, but assume the shots must be moving in the 900 fps range.
Accuracy wasn't great so I started working up - I found a great load today of 13.5 grains of unique with the 405 cast bullets. Great thing is they shoot really well out of both my guns.
I shot for around 3 hours today, putting around 90 rounds of 45-70 down range. Shoulder doesn't feel like I did anything out of the ordinary.
I've only been reloading for about a year - and today was the first time I really felt like my reloads worked like magic.

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