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  • Mike27t
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 139

    First Batch of Reloading - Test fire this weekend - A bit nervous

    First off thank you forum member for all the informative posts. I have learned a great deal in the past 2 months when I finally decided now is better time than ever to start reloading.

    My bench includes
    Lee classic turret
    Auto disk powder measure (double disk kit)
    lee safety scale
    Franklin Arsenal reload digital scale
    Dillon suage 600
    lee pacesetter die set
    ABC's of reloading


    Reloading .223 with the following components
    RE7
    Remington 7 1/2
    Sierra 55gr HPBT and Hornady 55gr FMJBT
    Mixed once fired brass (swaged myself)

    Ive followed the recipes found here and made 3 different batches which I plan on testing this weekend (in red below). I used a lee auto disk measure and used a digital scale as well as a lee balance scale to measure my powder. Ill be testing my loads this weekend and will be working my way up from the lightest load.

    I've checked my brass, the powder measure throw, max OAL but still a bit nervous as it is my first run. I will check for pressure signs in my casing before I work my way up. In the event my scale was off by .1,.2,.3gn over the max load are the consequences dire? Im almost reluctant to fire the max loads just in case.

    Thoughts? Am I overly concerned?




    Thanks again
  • #2
    XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    I was nervous my first time too. Just wear protection, you'll be fine.
    Chris
    <----Rimfire Addict


    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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    • #3
      five.five-six
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2006
      • 34883

      You don't need all your fingers, so long as yur thumb stays on you will be GTG

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      • #4
        HermanH
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Mar 2009
        • 335

        Generally, the load data supplied are 'tested' on an AR15 and IF the assumption is you have a rifle that IS specified to shoot 5.56mm ammunition, nearly anything for .223 will fall well below 5.56 pressure, which is the real number you're worried about.

        From widipedia (quick search):

        NATO EPVAT maximum service pressure of 430 MPa (62,000 psi) for 5.56 mm NATO, is reduced by SAAMI to 55,000 psi (380 MPa) for .223 Remington.[31]

        I've seen this guide too and used it a lot. While I've been under/over a 1/10th grain or so using H322 and H335, neither seem to have had any problems through my Colt LE6920. I will say, just be sure you have a nice taper crimp; not heavy, just a touch if at all. I found that when I did NOT do a full-length resize, 50% of my brass had loose bullets because the shoulder and neck didn't get sized properly (I was like 1/8" off but that's a lot!) I literally was able to push bullets into the casing by hand.

        Once I got over my D-OH moment and resized things properly (after pulling some 60 bullets), everything was fine and I found it hard to even budge the bullets by hand.
        Last edited by HermanH; 02-14-2013, 4:21 PM.
        Beretta 92FS | SA 1911 Loaded | S&W M&P15-22 | TC .44 Bull Barrel | Colt LE6920CMP-B | S&W 627-5 PC | S&W M&P 9 | Mossberg 500 | Rem 700 VSF | Benelli Montefeltro 12GA | CZ455 Varmint HB | Ruger 10/22 50th Anniv. | SigSauer P220 Combat

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        • #5
          Mike27t
          Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 139

          Originally posted by XDRoX
          I was nervous my first time too. Just wear protection, you'll be fine.
          Thanks for the reassurance

          Originally posted by five.five-six
          You don't need all your fingers, so long as yur thumb stays on you will be GTG


          Originally posted by HermanH
          Generally, the load data supplied are 'tested' on an AR15 and IF the assumption is you have a rifle that IS specified to shoot 5.56mm ammunition, nearly anything for .223 will fall well below 5.56 pressure, which is the real number you're worried about.

          From widipedia (quick search):

          NATO EPVAT maximum service pressure of 430 MPa (62,000 psi) for 5.56 mm NATO, is reduced by SAAMI to 55,000 psi (380 MPa) for .223 Remington.[31]

          I've seen this guide too and used it a lot. While I've been under/over a 1/10th grain or so using H322 and H335, neither seem to have had any problems through my Colt LE6920. I will say, just be sure you have a nice taper crimp; not heavy, just a touch if at all. I found that when I did NOT do a full-length resize, 50% of my brass had loose bullets because the shoulder and neck didn't get sized properly (I was like 1/8" off but that's a lot!) I literally was able to push bullets into the casing by hand.

          Once I got over my D-OH moment and resized things properly (after pulling some 60 bullets), everything was fine and I found it hard to even budge the bullets by hand.
          Thanks for the tip as well as the reminder on the additional pressure tolerance of 5.56. Much needed comfort there

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          • #6
            atdski07
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 2224

            You'll be fine just remember

            Don't sweat petty things and don't pet sweaty things :-).

            I just shot about 90 rounds of my first reloads Sunday had five different loads for 75gr .233 and four different loads for some 55 gr., all went off no hiccups, I was using reloader 10x and reloader 15. For my 55gr my sweet spot was about 22.3 gr powder and the 75gr was 22.5gr powder. Have fun:-)
            You kick a donkey enough and it will bite you. Yep its on the net look it up.

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            • #7
              alfred1222
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2010
              • 7331

              It's fine, just don't panic and have your buddy pull the trigger the first few times
              Originally posted by Kestryll
              This guy is a complete and total idiot.
              /thread.

              ΦΑ

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              • #8
                GeoffLinder
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 2425

                You are using cautious and prudent practices and should be just fine :-)

                A good OAL range for initial testing with 55gr is 2.225-2.235".

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                • #9
                  koehn,jim
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 643

                  If you stuck with published data and did things correctly you will be fine. Welcome to the satisfaction of making your own ammo. It is a great feeling to make quality ammo, and being able to tailor it to your weapon. The idea of eye and hearing protection is a must, and remeber the most accurate load is not always the most powerful.

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                  • #10
                    Aldemar
                    On Everyone's Ignore List
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 4707

                    Your nervousness will very quickly be replaced by a smile that will not go away for a bit - relax and enjoy.
                    Some people have said to only load one round at a time when testing a new recipe. Safety reasons they say. Personally, I really don't see the reason to do that.
                    AL
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                    70 has definite advantages: I was able to do all my stupid stuff before video cameras, smartphones, utube, and the internet.

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                    • #11
                      damndave
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 10858

                      hahha I was super nervous too. I made my friend shoot off my 1st reload.

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                      • #12
                        EL_NinO619
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1519

                        Originally posted by Aldemar
                        Your nervousness will very quickly be replaced by a smile that will not go away for a bit - relax and enjoy.
                        Some people have said to only load one round at a time when testing a new recipe. Safety reasons they say. Personally, I really don't see the reason to do that.
                        Not really safety reason, just you don't want to load 500 rounds of a caliber you have not tested, just to find out it won't cycle, is to hot, or your gun does not like. Only to end up pulling 495 rounds. If your somewhere in the middle of published data you should be fine, but if you working up a mouse fart or a hot round, I would load a test batch before I run a large batch.
                        se carga el diablo de la pistola...
                        .223, .25acp, 25-20win, 9mm, 38spl/.357, 10mm .308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 45acp, .475 Wildey mag
                        On 2 Hornady LnL AP & Dillon Super 1050

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                        • #13
                          five.five-six
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2006
                          • 34883

                          Originally posted by EL_NinO619
                          Not really safety reason, just you don't want to load 500 rounds of a caliber you have not tested, just to find out it won't cycle, is to hot, or your gun does not like. Only to end up pulling 495 rounds. If your somewhere in the middle of published data you should be fine, but if you working up a mouse fart or a hot round, I would load a test batch before I run a large batch.
                          To save gas, I will load up sets of (10) rounds in .1 or .2 grain increments as I get close to the bitter end of published load datum. I just mark the casings with a sharpie.

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                            Aldemar
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                            • Dec 2007
                            • 4707

                            Originally posted by EL_NinO619
                            Not really safety reason, just you don't want to load 500 rounds of a caliber you have not tested, just to find out it won't cycle, is to hot, or your gun does not like. Only to end up pulling 495 rounds. If your somewhere in the middle of published data you should be fine, but if you working up a mouse fart or a hot round, I would load a test batch before I run a large batch.
                            Sorry I wasn't clear...I meant load only one round in the gun.
                            AL
                            CGF Contributor
                            NRA Golden Eagle

                            Being north of
                            70 has definite advantages: I was able to do all my stupid stuff before video cameras, smartphones, utube, and the internet.

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                            • #15
                              snowdog650
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1108

                              OP, have no fear.

                              Man, I remember the first loads of mine that I fired. I loaded some 38 Special loads and put them through my S&W 686. Since it is made to shoot 357 MAG, I figured if I screwed the pooch on the 38's, I wouldn't have a catastrophic failure.

                              My first shot went without a hitch ... but I flinched badly, had both eyes closed, and completely missed the target at fricking 10 yards.

                              But it fired. And so have the thousands of rounds I have crafted since in over 10 different calibers.

                              Major pucker effect that first time, though.

                              Have fun tomorrow, OP. You'll be fine. All of us who roll our own have been there. Be sure to report back with your results.

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