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  • big103
    Mod without thumbs
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2009
    • 3511

    Do you crimp 30-30

    I`m doing some of my first reloads for 30-30 wondering if you guys crimp for it? Has anyone experienced anything like bullet set back because they dint crimp?


    Let me know what happened to you. A lot of stuff on the net is either theorized, or hear say.

    I have a Winchester 94.
    Last edited by big103; 02-02-2013, 11:18 PM.
    All Right MEOW
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    GeoffLinder
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 2425

    Roll crimp is more than advised for 30-30. Tubular magazine in lever actions puts a lot of push on the rounds from recoil. This is why you use flat points so they don't set each other off in the tube.

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    • #3
      mjmagee67
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 2771

      What he said!!
      If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
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        • Jan 2006
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        I crimp my flat nosed bullets that may go into lever guns.
        I don't crimp my pointed billets because I will be firing them in single shot contenders.
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        • #5
          GeoffLinder
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 2425

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          I crimp my flat nosed bullets that may go into lever guns.
          I don't crimp my pointed billets because I will be firing them in single shot contenders.
          Yup, I ignored the contender because 90% plus of folks reloading 30-30 are using it in lever actions and the OP did not specify, but you are correct for that specific application.

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          • #6
            mud99
            • Oct 2011
            • 1075

            Crimp it or bad things happen.

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            • #7
              big103
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              • Jul 2009
              • 3511

              Originally posted by GeoffLinder
              Yup, I ignored the contender because 90% plus of folks reloading 30-30 are using it in lever actions and the OP did not specify, but you are correct for that specific application.
              Sorry about that fixed it. I have a Winchester model 94.

              All right guys thanks for the heads up. But has anybody here not crimped and experienced bad things?
              All Right MEOW

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              • #8
                Dark Mod
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 4284

                Ive not crimped before and never experienced anything bad. I crimp now just because Its the right thing to do. The neck tension had been fine in the past when i was loading non canelured bullets, but the next batch of bullets i bought i made damn sure they had a canelure

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                • #9
                  GeoffLinder
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2425

                  Originally posted by big103
                  Sorry about that fixed it. I have a Winchester model 94.

                  All right guys thanks for the heads up. But has anybody here not crimped and experienced bad things?
                  I only load 30-30 for a lever action so I have always crimped. It was the first caliber I ever reloaded almost 30 years ago and was warned to do so by the person who taught me to reload and I have never tried it otherwise for 30-30.

                  The consequences of a serious setback raising pressure dangerously is a possibility that should not be ignored.

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                  • #10
                    Munk
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2124

                    I FL resize, and find that I get excellent neck tension. The crimping I do doesn't seem major, but it helps. I'm also not using the cannelure on the bullets when I do it usually.

                    So far, i've loaded a tube, then unloaded them one-by-one to check for setback and noticed none. Then I tried loading up a full tube, fired 2, then measured the rest, and saw no change in OAL that wasn't a result of the FTX's squishy tip being squishy.
                    Originally posted by greasemonkey
                    1911's instill fairy dust in the bullets, making them more deadly.

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                    • #11
                      gunboat
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3288

                      No, I don't crimp my 30/30 -
                      I only shoot cast loads -- a 310 expander, slight bell and the boolit is snug as a bug in a rug --
                      If I was a hunter, I think I would give field loads a bit of crimp --
                      In fact, i can't think of anything i load that I crimp -
                      my tuppence

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                      • #12
                        3006mv
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1979

                        just crimp it you'll get more consistent start up pressure anyway
                        "when I hear 'meat is murder' (sic) I think murder is delicious" - Stephen Colbert interview with Morrisey 09.10.12

                        I plead the 2nd.

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                        • #13
                          GeoffLinder
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 2425

                          Originally posted by 3006mv
                          just crimp it you'll get more consistent start up pressure anyway
                          Agreed, crimping when done properly will add consistency in release tension which gives smaller velocity differences over the chrono.

                          Trimming to same length is important for crimp consistency.

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                          • #14
                            big103
                            Mod without thumbs
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 3511

                            All right guys thanks for all your input glad to hear from a couple people that do and don`t crimp.

                            Thanks
                            All Right MEOW

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                            • #15
                              Whiterabbit
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 7592

                              Originally posted by gunboat
                              In fact, i can't think of anything i load that I crimp -
                              I agree. There is NOTHING I load, rifle or pistol, that I crimp. I rely heavily on case neck tension to get me where I need to go. Whether jacketed, solid copper (or brass), or cast (I stopped shooting jacketed and brass awhile ago)

                              If I DON'T have enough neck tension, I troubleshoot that before anything else. When that's set up right, I never need to crimp. Only remove bell (on cartridges that need belling)

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