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Do I have the wrong dies for 223 reloading?
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Do I have the wrong dies for 223 reloading?
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The collet die is typically used for "neck sizing only". This is best when using a bolt action or single shot rifle where feeding is not important. By neck sizing only, you retain the chamber dimensions of you gun on the rest of the cartridge case since it was fire formed in that chamber.
For AR's and other autoloading guns, you want a "full length" sizer that sizes the case body as well as the neck. This helps ensure smooth feeding into the gun. Good luck finding that these days however.Comment
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What Rocket said. Unfortunately you have the wrong dies if you're loading for an AR. You need a full length sizer.The collet die is typically used for "neck sizing only". This is best when using a bolt action or single shot rifle where feeding is not important. By neck sizing only, you retain the chamber dimensions of you gun on the rest of the cartridge case since it was fire formed in that chamber.
For AR's and other autoloading guns, you want a "full length" sizer that sizes the case body as well as the neck. This helps ensure smooth feeding into the gun. Good luck finding that these days however.Chris
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Or look for some "Small Base" dies.
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great..."One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
-MLK
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
-GandhiComment
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Do I have the wrong dies for 223 reloading?
Your dead length bullet seater is fine. As some have said, neck sizing with the collet die will cause all sorts of feed issues with a semi-auto.
You really just need a full length sizing die but it might be hard to just find the single die. Look on eBay or some such.
You'll have issues reloading primers in used .223 brass because most manufacturers put a crimp on the primer pocket. Primers won't go in very well at all into a crimped pocket so you will need to get a primer pocket reamer or swager.
Not sure what supplies you have, but try 25 gr of H335 under a 55 gr bullet and CCI #41 primer. That's good for pinging steel out to about 600 yds are so.Last edited by Nodda Duma; 01-26-2013, 1:03 PM.Looking for photos for your wall?
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I highly recommend the Dillon 3 die sets for .223 reloading. Great dies, best warranty out there. Decapping pin on size die is more robust than others I have used. Also, the included taper crimp die is best way to crimp for rifle cartridges.
Dillon Precision is the premiere manufacturer of firearm ammunition reloading equipment in the USA. We sell reloaders, reloader accessories, firearm accessories and gear to retail and B2B customers.
I also highly recommend that you get a case gauge to verify your final product AND to use in setting up proper shoulder setback with the size die. This is a very important step that many folks overlook.
There is a set of pdf instructions at that link that explain the process of setting up the size die properly.
Dillon also sells this gauge (in addition to their own version, but I like the LE Wilson one best).Last edited by GeoffLinder; 01-26-2013, 1:12 PM.Comment
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Purchased an RCBS 2 die .223 set from Cabela's last week for $36.
You just have to look around and wait (although I just went to Cabela's, put in .223 dies and purchased without any waiting). Now if you're not one without the ability to wait, there are plenty of die sets on ebay for $100+Last edited by bill_k_lopez; 01-26-2013, 1:57 PM.Comment
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Check titan reloading.
I just picked up a set of .223 lee dies. In stock. About 28bux.
Edit....looks like they sold out quick on the die sets.
SorryLast edited by savagemann; 01-26-2013, 2:55 PM.Comment
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I have a pocket tool, and it has done a good job up to this point.Your dead length bullet seater is fine. As some have said, neck sizing with the collet die will cause all sorts of feed issues with a semi-auto.
You really just need a full length sizing die but it might be hard to just find the single die. Look on eBay or some such.
You'll have issues reloading primers in used .223 brass because most manufacturers put a crimp on the primer pocket. Primers won't go in very well at all into a crimped pocket so you will need to get a primer pocket reamer or swager.
Not sure what supplies you have, but try 25 gr of H335 under a 55 gr bullet and CCI #41 primer. That's good for pinging steel out to about 600 yds are so."One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
-MLK
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
-GandhiComment
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My local EBR shop might have a supply on the Dillon dies...I highly recommend the Dillon 3 die sets for .223 reloading. Great dies, best warranty out there. Decapping pin on size die is more robust than others I have used. Also, the included taper crimp die is best way to crimp for rifle cartridges.
Dillon Precision is the premiere manufacturer of firearm ammunition reloading equipment in the USA. We sell reloaders, reloader accessories, firearm accessories and gear to retail and B2B customers.
I also highly recommend that you get a case gauge to verify your final product AND to use in setting up proper shoulder setback with the size die. This is a very important step that many folks overlook.
There is a set of pdf instructions at that link that explain the process of setting up the size die properly.
Dillon also sells this gauge (in addition to their own version, but I like the LE Wilson one best)."One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
-MLK
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
-GandhiComment
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