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  • edrex
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 360

    Shot my first reloads today!

    Just got started in reloading and I'm working up a 223 load for my AR with 18" White Oak upper. Tested 4 different charges, each charge with 2 different primers using Sierra 69gr HPBT. Felt great to shoot my own ammo and I'm pretty happy with the results!

    Here are the 2 best groups (100 yards, light wind, 47 degrees out):

    Top target is 22.9gr H335 with CCI BR4 primer (0.85")
    Bottom target is 23.3gr H335 with CCI BR4 primer (0.81")

    Even though the bottom target is a little smaller, if I toss out the flyer from the top the 4 shot group is only .46" (!), so I think I'm going to start there and do some fine tuning.


    Once thing I noticed is some dimples in unfired primers. The pic below shows some rounds that were chambered and then removed from my AR. These dimples show up chambering my reloads and also factory ammo. I've read about the AR having a floating firing pin that can strike the primer but is this a normal mark to be left? Seems like its not that far off from firing at that point. Just need to know if this is something I need to have looked at.
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    It's not the flaming ruins; it's that you lit the fire.
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    ExtremeX
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 7160

    Dimples on the cases are normal, and yes its caused by the floating firing pin.
    ExtremeX

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    • #3
      elhefe50ss
      CGSSA Coordinator
      • Aug 2011
      • 431

      grats feels good huh

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      • #4
        SWalt
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2012
        • 8701

        If you are new to reloading, you should know you need to make sure your primers are seated properly especially for a gas gun. They should sit slightly below the case head. Also make sure the primer pocket is the right depth. Others will tell you that you should only use mil spec primers like cci 41 for 223. They have a thicker cup and have less of a chance of slam fire. The dimple is normal, just make sure the primers are seated properly.
        ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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        • #5
          hemiguy55
          STUD MUFFIN
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2011
          • 825

          Nice man! What kind of reloader are you using?
          Originally posted by starsnuffer
          Taking legal advice from a gun store owner or employee is like taking dietary advice at the McDonald's drive through. Just don't.

          -W

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          • #6
            edrex
            Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 360

            Originally posted by SWalt
            If you are new to reloading, you should know you need to make sure your primers are seated properly especially for a gas gun. They should sit slightly below the case head.
            Thanks, I size, trim and prime each batch and then load another time and I feel each primer to make sure they are seated.

            Originally posted by hemiguy55
            Nice man! What kind of reloader are you using?
            I got a Lee Classic Turret. Really like it so far. Still taking it slow right now, but its been pretty easy to set up and learn on.
            It's not the flaming ruins; it's that you lit the fire.

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            • #7
              gau17
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 846

              Is the barrel 223 or 5.56?

              If it's 5.56 you can probably bump it higher. most common load is 24-25 H335. I personally use 25 grains.

              I prefer using Remington 7 1/2 or CCI 41 primers for the reasons noted by SWalt. Do yourself a favor and buy a Dillon or Wilson headspace gauge. This will let you know if you are sizing your brass properly and verify they will all chamber.

              Dillon Precision is the premiere manufacturer of firearm ammunition reloading equipment in the USA. We sell reloaders, reloader accessories, firearm accessories and gear to retail and B2B customers.



              Congrats. Be safe.
              Semper Fi

              IYAOYAS

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              • #8
                CEDaytonaRydr
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 4141

                So, did you close your eyes and turn your head, or did you cup your hand over your "huevos" and squint?

                Just kidding, man.

                I know it's funny, because I haven't blown myself up yet, but every time I try a new recipe, I get a bit concerned.

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                • #9
                  ExtremeX
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 7160

                  Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
                  So, did you close your eyes and turn your head, or did you cup your hand over your "huevos" and squint?
                  I do this every time I try a new load lol

                  Not that big of a deal tho... all my friends were wearing these
                  ExtremeX

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                  • #10
                    the led farmer
                    Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 194

                    Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
                    So, did you close your eyes and turn your head, or did you cup your hand over your "huevos" and squint?
                    Don't forget to shoot off handed!

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                    • #11
                      edrex
                      Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 360

                      Originally posted by gau17
                      Is the barrel 223 or 5.56?

                      If it's 5.56 you can probably bump it higher. most common load is 24-25 H335. I personally use 25 grains.

                      I prefer using Remington 7 1/2 or CCI 41 primers for the reasons noted by SWalt. Do yourself a favor and buy a Dillon or Wilson headspace gauge. This will let you know if you are sizing your brass properly and verify they will all chamber.

                      Dillon Precision is the premiere manufacturer of firearm ammunition reloading equipment in the USA. We sell reloaders, reloader accessories, firearm accessories and gear to retail and B2B customers.



                      Congrats. Be safe.
                      It's chambered for .556.
                      By 24gr the groups opened back up to a little over 2". My next batch will be more increments between 22.9 and 23.8 to see if anything gives better grouping.

                      Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
                      So, did you close your eyes and turn your head, or did you cup your hand over your "huevos" and squint?
                      I used the "hey kid, wanna shoot an AR?" technique. Works every time. lol
                      It's not the flaming ruins; it's that you lit the fire.

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                      • #12
                        Old Flash
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1224

                        Congratulations! Its a great feeling when shooting your own reloads and getting good results. I also use H335 on my 223 reloads for my ARs. 24.5 to 25.0 grs with a Sierra 69gr HPBT and Winchester SR. Varget and BLC 2 are also great powders, but seem to be hard to find these days.

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                        • #13
                          Rider1k
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1939

                          I cant wait to load and shoot my own. Have almost everything I need and have even been practicing loading dummies. Damn panic buying put my loading to a hault.

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                          • #14
                            edrex
                            Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 360

                            Originally posted by Old Flash
                            Congratulations! Its a great feeling when shooting your own reloads and getting good results. I also use H335 on my 223 reloads for my ARs. 24.5 to 25.0 grs with a Sierra 69gr HPBT and Winchester SR. Varget and BLC 2 are also great powders, but seem to be hard to find these days.
                            I just picked up some Varget the other day. Gonna work up a load on that too so at least I have a couple of options when things are scarce.

                            Originally posted by Rider1k
                            I cant wait to load and shoot my own. Have almost everything I need and have even been practicing loading dummies. Damn panic buying put my loading to a hault.
                            What are you missing? S&T in Santa Rosa has a decent amount of powders although SR primers have been hit or miss. My biggest problem right now is bullets. I bought about 500 before the panic so I'm trying to ration those until they are more readily available.
                            It's not the flaming ruins; it's that you lit the fire.

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                            • #15
                              Jet Setter
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 5348

                              Congrats. Something I hope to do someday.
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                              2. PW 800B converted to 800C (12 gauge) with lots of accessories and upgrades
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