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  • NorCalNative
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 563

    .223 Die Recommendations

  • #2
    Exodus343
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 4735

    can't go wrong with Lee Pacesetter Dies
    you get full length sizing die, bullet seating die, and factory crimp die, a shell holder, and a scooper along with load data!
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    • #3
      GeoffLinder
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 2425

      I prefer Dillon die sets, they work with any press. Most any are good, just make sure the size die is a "small base" type. You do not need Carbide dies as you always lube the cases for rifle, in fact they are sometimes a bad idea if you use much "cam over" as they will crack if too much pressure against shell plate is used.

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      • #4
        bryant
        Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 220

        rcbs small base die, regarding 77 gr bullet do some research on that one i think i will not fit on ar magazine but you can used it a single load.

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        • #5
          EL_NinO619
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 1519

          RCBS Small base, Dillon, Lee 3 Deluxe.

          RCBS you will only have to trim once after the initial removal of 0.020 and its less stressful on the brass for semi-auto's

          Dillons are great, easy to clean, great crimp die and just quality, but pricey.

          Lee's are cheap, very good quality for price, have had a set and loaded thousands with them. Some people crimp some don't all depends on what your loading and what your preference is. LFCD does a good job of crimping, if you don't over do it.

          77gr is a bit heavy and long for a semi. What is your twist rate?
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          • #6
            Stoopy
            Banned
            • Dec 2009
            • 518

            For match grade ammo I use redding type s fl die and seater die. They have bushings to control neck tension. They are probably overkill for an ar unless your ar is built to shoot sub moa groups.

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            • #7
              wild_weasel
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 1256

              My RCBS AR 223/5.56 dies should be in the mailbox tonight when I get home. I have x50 223 cases ready to try them out with. will let you know.

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              • #8
                roc_my_tims
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1522

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                  roc_my_tims
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                  • Oct 2011
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                  • #10
                    NorCalNative
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 563

                    Well, I'm hoping that the 77gr option will work in the AR. According to a number of reviews of SMK bullets, they're GTG. I'd use the 77gr in a 1:7.

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                    • #11
                      NorCalNative
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 563

                      Originally posted by EL_NinO619
                      RCBS you will only have to trim once after the initial removal of 0.020 and its less stressful on the brass for semi-auto's
                      What is it about the RCBS dies that make them less stressful on the brass and minimize trimming?

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                      • #12
                        farnorcal
                        Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 494

                        77 grains are good to go

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                        • #13
                          NorCalNative
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 563

                          Only one recommendations for Redding dies? None for Hornady?

                          I've only used RCBS for single stage work, with no problems. They're all 15 years old now...

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                          • #14
                            NorCalNative
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 563

                            Only one recommendations for Redding dies? None for Hornady?

                            I've only used RCBS for single stage work, with no problems. They're all 15 years old now...

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                            • #15
                              morrow
                              Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 377

                              Originally posted by EL_NinO619
                              RCBS Small base, Dillon, Lee 3 Deluxe.

                              RCBS you will only have to trim once after the initial removal of 0.020 and its less stressful on the brass for semi-auto's

                              Dillons are great, easy to clean, great crimp die and just quality, but pricey.

                              Lee's are cheap, very good quality for price, have had a set and loaded thousands with them. Some people crimp some don't all depends on what your loading and what your preference is. LFCD does a good job of crimping, if you don't over do it.

                              77gr is a bit heavy and long for a semi. What is your twist rate?
                              I think you meant to say the RCBS X-die
                              I don't see how it's less stress, though.

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