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  • spy-d
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 463

    .223 reloading request

    For years, I use IMR4198 powder for my AR.

    21.5g for a 55g FMJ. So a can loaded a lot of rounds.

    But, it takes time. The results of my load was that I was shooting a shot group the size of a quarter at 75m range.

    That was back then in the mid 80s.

    I would like a better powder for my .223

    Any one have a favorite powder I might like?
  • #2
    Dark Mod
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 4284

    I usually use IMR4895 or Varget

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    • #3
      msnm
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 87

      check out mil surplus powder, it is about half price per keg

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      • #4
        spy-d
        Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 463

        Mil surplus powder. If it's less, I'll take a 55 gal drum.... Maybe 4 drums.

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        • #5
          bohoki
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 20825

          was your brass really sooty?

          i tried reducing loads and it really made my brass dirty

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          • #6
            spy-d
            Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 463

            Imr-4198 is like small rods. Tubler. It does burn a lot cleaner than ball.
            If you look at history, and the M16 problems of Nam, the AR was design for IMR powder. So, it didn't need cleaning. However, IMR powder is very hard to load with large loaders. So, the military went with Ball Powder. Easer and faster to load. But ball powder is dirty.

            So, I am thinking that someone has a powder that is as easy to load like Ball and as clean burning as IMR.

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            • #7
              rudynix
              Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 224

              Try some cfe223 powder by hodgdon. Burns pretty clean, and I get pretty good accuracy from it. I load the 75 grain HPBT bullet, but it is still usable for the 55 grain. The hogdon site has reloading data.
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              • #8
                spy-d
                Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 463

                Great. I'll check it out.

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                • #9
                  scotty99
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1184

                  CFE223 has become my new favorite, but Winchester 748 is also a great .223 powder. Both meter really well.

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                  • #10
                    Bill Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5028

                    You might give AR Comp a try. I tried some with my 308 bolt gun. I was looking for a powder that would rival IMR 4064 or Varget for accuracy but meter better. It metered great.

                    I never did get it to group as well as the others, but I got some amazing SD's. I had a few strings with an SD of zero. Most were low single digit. Amazingly consistent burn, at least in a 308 Win case.

                    I have to believe had I stayed with it, I could have gotten at least as good a grouping with it, given the SD's I was seeing, as my favorite 4064 and Varget loads. I was struggling with bullet issues at the same time, which could have contributed to the less than outstanding results on paper.
                    When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                    • #11
                      Full Clip
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 10263

                      TAC

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                      • #12
                        madjack956
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 2617

                        I use Imr 4064 for .223.
                        Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.org

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                        • #13
                          EL_NinO619
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1519

                          TAC, BL(C)-2, 748 all ball, all great. TAC is where its at..
                          se carga el diablo de la pistola...
                          .223, .25acp, 25-20win, 9mm, 38spl/.357, 10mm .308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 45acp, .475 Wildey mag
                          On 2 Hornady LnL AP & Dillon Super 1050

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                          • #14
                            GeoffLinder
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 2425

                            748 or Varget are good choices

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                            • #15
                              Wrangler John
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1799

                              TAC also contains anti copper fouling ingredients like CFE223.

                              My best results are with Varget and Reloader 10x, with TAC and CFE223 second. Across several rifles, bolt action varmint rifles and the AR-15, Reloader-10x has proven consistently the most accurate.

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