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  • Muchosmangos
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 42

    Critique me please

    So I received 220 .270 brass. I sorted them into different piles. I then took all the Winchester head stamp brass and lubed them with Lee Re-sizing Lube. Then I put them all in the press and proceeded to full length/neck re-size all of them. I then took a paper towel with a little simple green cleaning compound on it and wiped the lube off. Then I used a clean dry cotton swab to clean the neck of the case of lube. Please tell me if I am doing anything wrong or if there are better ways.

    Question 1: What should my tolerance for case length be?

    Question 2: Should I individually measure every single case with my caliper to check each case length? What other lengths should I check? (If any)

    Question 3: What is the best way to clean the primer pocket before re-priming?

    Thanks a lot guys.
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    2shotjoe
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 26546

    1. i go between max length and trim to length
    2. they make a cut out ruler for that, if it doesn't fit then it goes in the trimmer bucket
    3. i don't clean them unless it has a military crimp from surplus ammo. it goes in the media tumbler before depriming.
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    • #3
      Muchosmangos
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 42

      Thanks. Where an I find one of these cut outs?

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      • #4
        gunboat
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 3288

        Presuming you have a pair of calipers you can set the opening to a few thou under max cartridge length, lock it, and use it as snap gauge --
        my tuppence

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        • #5
          2shotjoe
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2011
          • 26546

          Originally posted by Muchosmangos
          Thanks. Where an I find one of these cut outs?
          case length gage


          headspace gage
          Originally posted by Kestryll
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          Originally posted by Libertarian777
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          • #6
            BSlacker
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2003
            • 923

            Then I used a clean dry cotton swab to clean the neck of the case of lube.
            This is the part I think you are over doing. Look for neck brushes. I have one that holds a Mica lube and mounts to the bench for easy use. Just stick the neck over the brush and pull back and it is cleaned and lubed. I doubt that a little of the Lee lube left in the neck will kill the powder. Then toss them in the tumbler to clean off the lube.
            There are lots of primer pocket cleaning tools out there. Get a case gauge!
            Last edited by BSlacker; 12-08-2012, 6:51 AM.

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            • #7
              rconnerley
              Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 179

              Bslacker has a good point, a neck brush would be a lot easier and quicker for you. As far as cleaning primer pockets goes, typical hand tools are short metal brushes of appropriate diameter with a screwdriver style handle. Just takes a a twist or two of the brush and the pocket is clean.

              Depending on your usage, you may not need to mess with cleaning pockets at all. I usually do so for rifle cartridges because I am mostly loading for semiautos and the crud build up can make it hard to get primers to seat fully (I want mine about .004-005 below flush). If you are loading for bolt gun, unless you are making match ammo, you may choose not to bother with the pockets. Enjoy!
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              • #8
                drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 2219

                Originally posted by Muchosmangos

                Question 1: What should my tolerance for case length be?

                Question 2: Should I individually measure every single case with my caliper to check each case length? What other lengths should I check? (If any)

                Question 3: What is the best way to clean the primer pocket before re-priming?

                Thanks a lot guys.
                1. Any good reloading manual can give you that measurement. And there are lots of online resources as well. I would spot check them after step 2.
                2. I use the Lee Case trimmer on all of my rifle cartridges to trim all of them, every time, to a consistent length. It's inexpensive and I don't load hundreds of rifle rounds at a time. I finish up with a chamfering reamer.
                3. I have a RCBS Primer Pocket cleaner that I use on the particularly cruddy ones. Otherwise, I don't bother.
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                • #9
                  Muchosmangos
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 42

                  Thanks guys!

                  On my reloading data it say that the "Maximum trim length is 2.540"

                  Should I be trying to get my cases to this size? I am confused about the trimming part. That is the only part. Thanks!

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                  • #10
                    Muchosmangos
                    Junior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 42

                    I also have a Lee case length trimming tool.

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                    • #11
                      drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2219

                      Originally posted by Muchosmangos
                      Thanks guys!

                      On my reloading data it say that the "Maximum trim length is 2.540"

                      Should I be trying to get my cases to this size? I am confused about the trimming part. That is the only part. Thanks!
                      No. Think consistency. As long as all of your cases are within tolerance, and they should be if you run them all through the trimmer in a consistent manner, you will be good to go. This is particularly important if your bullets have a cannelure and you intend to crimp them. This is not normally necessary in a bolt action but can be necessary for autoloaders and tubular magazines.
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                      • #12
                        Muchosmangos
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 42

                        So how long should my .270 Winchester cases be do you think?

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                        • #13
                          drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2219

                          You have a reloading manual, correct? If not, Google for the specs. They should show a minimum and maximum length. As long as your cases are between the min and max, you should be good.
                          To be honest, since I use the Lee trimmers, I haven't measured a case length since I bought the Lee tools. But I use them every time I prep a batch of cases so they are all a consistent length. Never have had a problem. The only time I would try to trim to a particular length is if I was into bench rest shooting; and I'm not. I reload to hunt and my methods produce ammo which works very nicely for that purpose.
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                          • #14
                            Muchosmangos
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 42

                            It says maximum length should be 2.540 and trim lenght is 2.520. My lee cutter is cutting to 2.533. This is good right?

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                            • #15
                              Kappy
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 5349

                              Originally posted by Muchosmangos
                              It says maximum length should be 2.540 and trim lenght is 2.520. My lee cutter is cutting to 2.533. This is good right?
                              Makes sense. It is under the max length...
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