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  • kylix.rd
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 79

    Homemade Chronograph

    Hello folks... I'm back with another home build project. Within the next week I'll be testing my new homemade 3-stage IR ballistic chronograph. I don't have all the pictures together yet, so I'm trying to gauge the interest in posting more information about it. I can even go into a detailed description of the whole build similar to my other projects. I have to say that this project is not for the faint of heart. I found it extremely challenging, but in was fun and allowed me to bring a lot of my mechanical, electrical, electronic and computing experience into it. Based on some simple calculations, the chronograph should be able to handle well above 4000fps.

    Here are a couple of teaser pics.

    The screens:




    The controller box:

    An earlier photo during development showing some test code running for the touch keyboard driver:


    And the final UI main screen, shot capture screen and shot series stats and review:




    My cave is a little cluttered... Hey! You can see the just lubed cast boolits drying behind the chronograph screens. And there is also a bunch of cardboard I use as a back stop for testing with a .177 pellet/BB air rifle (Shhh!!! don't tell the wife that I took some of her fabric bolt forms). In fact the stats in the last photo are from testing with the air rifle. Yes, the screens are sensitive enough to regularly detect the passing of a BB. I think a 230gr .45 LRN will be easily "seen" ;-).

    The controller code will handle up to 32 shots in a series and can be stored in eeprom. I can also save the shot data to the on-board 4gb SD card or send the data out the serial port to the computer directly. It will calculate the min/max, extreme spread, average and standard deviation for each series. Given the graphic display I could even add some code to show charts and graphs ;-).

    Here's a quick rundown of the spec's:

    For the screens:

    o 4 950nm IR emitter LEDs & 4 950nm PIN photodiode for each screen.
    o Detection amplifiers right at each screen to minimize noise and interference.
    o Lightweight aluminum "U" channels and angle brackets for screen support.
    o 3/16" steel rods hold the plastic "U" channel with the detectors 1' above emitters.
    o Steel rods just slip into threaded and drilled steel spacers as a quick-disconnect. Detector channels and rods all come apart for transport.

    Controller box:

    o Main microcontroller - OSEPP Arduino Mega2560 - Frys
    o Mass storage - Seeed Studios SD Card Shield - modified to work with Mega2560 - 4gb SD card - Radio Shack
    o T6963 based 240x64 graphic LCD with parallel interface & LED backlight
    o Fujitsu 6.4" N010-0554-T048A-TW resistive touch panel - Half of panel over display and half over keyboard template
    o Surplus aluminum box found at HSC.
    o Custom written software along with custom code for touch panel keyboard and on-screen buttons.

    For folks in the SF Bay area, the display and touch panel are from Halted Specialties Co. You can find them on their website. The touch panel is only $8 on sale (I paid $12.50).

    I shamelessly copied the detector amplifier circuitry from this project: http://nutsvolts.texterity.com/nutsv...?folio=36#pg36... however that is where the similarties ended.

    I'll be happy to go into more detail if folks are interested. I think folks main question will be how does it work at the range with "real" bullet velocities? Like I mentioned from the outset, depending on the weather, I plan on trying it within the week. I already know it works perfectly fine in my cave detecting BBs and .177 pellets. This is even with the room being filled with florescent fixtures and several LCD computer monitors. I placed the detectors in the upper plastic "U" channel facing down so that ambient interference is eliminated. I also added some extra "baffling" to keep reflected light at a minimum. I'm getting about a 70-80% detection rate for BBs. I don't have any clue how well the commercial units detect the smaller projectiles since I've never actually used one before. If I had one why would I build one, right? ;-).

    I'd be interested in hearing from folks about how well their commercial chronograph works and how reliable the detection is.

    If you've already made it this far... I'd say I've piqued your interest ;-).
  • #2
    Jeepers
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3415

    interest is piqued

    looks like a fun project
    Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
    Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.

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    • #3
      Colt562
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2012
      • 5271

      Simply Amazing.
      Originally posted by bruceflinch
      Tis Better, to be Overworked & Underpaid,
      Than Oversexed & Underlaid...

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      • #4
        wizdumb
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 850

        I prefer the MagnetoSpeed design, but can appreciate the level of effort that goes into making a chrono. Good luck with your project!
        Please verify historical quotes before putting them in your signature.

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        • #5
          BenHa
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 838

          Interested

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          • #6
            kylix.rd
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 79

            Originally posted by wizdumb
            I prefer the MagnetoSpeed design, but can appreciate the level of effort that goes into making a chrono. Good luck with your project!
            How would that work for a handgun with an active slide?
            Rifles, sure; handguns I don't see it working.

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            • #7
              gemini1
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 2230

              How much has this project cost you so far?

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              • #8
                calixt0
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 546

                im interested.. I too would like to know what it has cost and how well it works with real bullets instead of bb's and pellets.

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                • #9
                  TimRB
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 920

                  Halted--I just loved that place when I lived in SJ. Legend has it that Jobs and Wozniak got their original Apple stuff there.

                  Tim

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                  • #10
                    Coded-Dude
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 6705

                    tagged.
                    x2

                    Originally posted by Deadbolt
                    watching this state and country operate is like watching a water park burn down. doesn't make sense.
                    Originally posted by Obama
                    Team 6 showed up in choppers, it was so cash. Lit his house with red dots like it had a rash. Navy SEALs dashed inside his house, left their heads spinning...then flew off in the night screaming "Duh, WINNING!"

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                    • #11
                      kylix.rd
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 79

                      Originally posted by gemini1
                      How much has this project cost you so far?
                      So far I'm probably into it for about $150. I justify some of that because the microcontroller can be removed and used for other projects. That was the single largest purchase. About $50 from Frys. I was able to get a lot of the components from Halted. I did buy some IR emitter LEDs for only $.20 each from mouser.com that better matched the sensitivity of the PIN photodiodes that I got from Halted.

                      If you visit Halted, make a list and plan on several hours roaming the isles. Also, make sure you bring some extra "oooh! that is cool! I gotta get that" impulse buy funds. So budget about 50% more than you plan on ;-).

                      Some of the components I was able to scrounge from previous projects and what I had in the proverbial "parts bin."

                      If it works as well as I suspect it will, it will be better than many of the commercially available 3-stage systems. I doubt you could build one for less than a low- to mid-level Chrony, but once you trick out the Chrony with remote displays, PC interfaces and printers, I'm still doing better than that.

                      If I were to design something to be sold commercially, parts cost, manufacturability, and ease of assembly would all be factors that would have to be taken into account. I have the luxury of using lots of one-off surplus components without worrying about availability. If I do any kind of "here's how you build one" series there will be a lot of steps that will be "exercise left for the reader." That is largely why I said that it isn't a project for the faint of heart.

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                      • #12
                        kylix.rd
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 79

                        Originally posted by TimRB
                        Halted--I just loved that place when I lived in SJ. Legend has it that Jobs and Wozniak got their original Apple stuff there.

                        Tim
                        I frequented a place in St. Louis, MO back in the early 80s that was much like Halted. St. Louis had a lot of defense contractors and other tech companies so the local surplus electronic market was well stocked. When I was right out of high-school, I got a job at the place and not much of my paycheck made it home :-/. I was hired on the spot by one of the owners when I was able to recite (from memory ;-) the datasheet specs on a chip that a customer was interested in buying. I just happened to overhear their conversation and interjected myself...

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                        • #13
                          BACKTOSHOOTING
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 517

                          So i should be able to pick one up at Wally world soon

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                          • #14
                            kylix.rd
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 79

                            Originally posted by BACKTOSHOOTING
                            So i should be able to pick one up at Wally world soon
                            Define "soon"...

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                            • #15
                              wizdumb
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 850

                              Originally posted by kylix.rd
                              How would that work for a handgun with an active slide?
                              Rifles, sure; handguns I don't see it working.
                              I'm certain they know that this is something folks want. I'd expect to see a version in the coming year that connects to a picatinny rail on many handguns (and some rifles).
                              It's a bit trickier to attach it to others, sure, but it's not impossible.

                              WAY faster/easier to setup at the range.
                              No distance-from-muzzle correction calculations are required
                              Not sensitive to light.
                              Please verify historical quotes before putting them in your signature.

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