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  • Riksk
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 163

    Bummed...

    Picked up the Hornady classic kit from Midway on their Black Friday sale. Spent all day fashioning a portable mounting system for the press and powder dispenser. Read the whole Hornady book last night.

    Tried to size my first case, once fired Federal brass, 308 Winchester. Lubed both sides and inside the neck with One Shot.

    Case got stuck. Rim tore off. Was using Hornady Custom New Dimension dies.

    Gonna mail the die to Hornady in the morning. In the meantime I ordered RBCS dies instead. Seems they are easier to use according to reviews on Midway.


    Riksk
  • #2
    .22guy
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2006
    • 5863

    Try not to get discouraged, these things happen. Reloading has a bit of learning curve to it, at least it did for me.

    Did you possibly have the die adjusted incorrectly?
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    • #3
      Bill Steele
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 5028

      Get some Imperial Sizing Wax. Another option is liquid lanolin mixed 1:9 99% iso alcohol and use a pump spray bottle (or just buy some Dillon spray lube). I only use One Shot on straight walled pistol brass. It isn't your dies.
      When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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      • #4
        Antihero47
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 1312

        where are you located? Maybe someone around you could pull that bad boy for you.put the die into a vise and loosen the decapping rod nut, then pull the decapping rod away from the primer hole. Drill and tap threads through the primer pocket, and use a bolt with oversize nuts and washers to pull the case out while screwing in the bolt.

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        • #5
          Colt562
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2012
          • 5271

          Originally posted by Riksk
          Picked up the Hornady classic kit from Midway on their Black Friday sale. Spent all day fashioning a portable mounting system for the press and powder dispenser. Read the whole Hornady book last night.

          Tried to size my first case, once fired Federal brass, 308 Winchester. Lubed both sides and inside the neck with One Shot.

          Case got stuck. Rim tore off. Was using Hornady Custom New Dimension dies.

          Gonna mail the die to Hornady in the morning. In the meantime I ordered RBCS dies instead. Seems they are easier to use according to reviews on Midway.


          Riksk
          Those things will happen. But dont get discouraged.
          Originally posted by bruceflinch
          Tis Better, to be Overworked & Underpaid,
          Than Oversexed & Underlaid...

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          • #6
            Horton Fenty
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 921

            Originally posted by Riksk
            Lubed both sides and inside the neck with One Shot.
            There's your problem.

            I did the same thing first time I tried to use one shot with rifle. It's not you, or the equipment, it's the lube. Try some Imperial Sizing Wax. It's cheap, last forever, and works slicker than snot. Catch is it's no where near as convenient to use as a spray.
            Last edited by Horton Fenty; 11-30-2012, 10:26 PM.

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            • #7
              rsrocket1
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 2774

              Did you wait for the One Shot to dry completely?
              That's very important.
              There are lots of other lubes around, don't get discouraged.

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              • #8
                Divernhunter
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2010
                • 8753

                I have reloaded for many years. Get a stuck case kit. RCBS makes the one I have used for many years. It is quick and easy to remove a stuck case. I have both RCBS and Hornady dies(and other brands) and found it is not the die problem. I had the same trouble with the Hornady lube. After trying everything and reading the directions I still stuck cases. Got rid of the Hornady case lube and got another spray bottle of RCBS Case Slick lube and back to no problems. I load 204Ruger to 50bmg with the RCBS lube and rarely stick a case.
                Dump the lube and buy RCBS spray lube. Not the messy pad/lube from RCBS which works well but I do not like the mess.

                One more thing after spraying with RCBS spray lube and resizing I just take a bunch of the brass and dump them into an old towel. Fold the towel over the brass and rub the brass to remove the lube. Then hand prime, add powder and seat bullet.---Shoot----repeat.
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                • #9
                  rconnerley
                  Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 179

                  Sorry things are off to such a rough start for you .

                  +1 on there is a learning curve to reloading and hang in there.

                  I also agree that it sounds like a lube problem, not the die you are using. I own both RCBS and Hornady dies and they are pretty much the same w/o proper lube, or enough lube, cases will stick.

                  It is probably an excellent idea to get a stuck case kit; however, I never got around to getting one. Here is how I have cleared stuck cases in my Hornady dies w/o one:

                  1. Install the die w/stuck case in your press. This will give you a stable platform to work on the problem.

                  2. Remove the collet (this is the piece on top of the die that looks sort of like a hex nut with the threaded stem sticking up out of the middle). Use a wrench to loosen then unscrew it all the way off of the stem.

                  3. Once the collet is out of the way, see if the stem moves freely, you should be able to rattle it up and down, though it wont come out due to the expander on the other end. If you can't rattle it, use a soft faced hammer or hammer with block of wood to gently tap the threaded stem downward until it will rattle up and down.

                  4. Once the stem rattles freely up and down, position it so that the decapping pin is poking out through the flash hole.

                  5. Clamp a set of vicegrips firmly on the part of case that is protruding from the die.

                  6. Using a soft faced hammer, or hammer with block of wood, tap firmly downward on the stem, while you try to rotate the case back and forth with the vice grips. Don't worry if you have to reset the vicegrips a few times, as chunks of rim and other brass may peel off. Use common sense regarding how much force you apply to the stem with the hammer, the twisting with the vicegrips does most of the work. Tap firmly and twist until the case comes out.

                  7. Now the case is out the die, but the stem with the expander on it is still stuck in the case. Use a hacksaw to saw the head off the case so that you can remove the stem. Pull the stem up as far as you can in the direction of the case neck while sawing so that you don't accidentally saw into the expander on the end of the stem. Done!

                  I hope this helps and good luck.
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                  • #10
                    SixPointEight
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 3788

                    I love one shot even on rifles. But ive learned...apply twice as much as yoy think you need and ignore the dorections. Let it dry a couple minutes and then go ahead and size

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                    • #11
                      GeoffLinder
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 2425

                      +1 for using the Dillon spray lube (or another lanolin based one). Never had a stuck case with it in any die, have had several with one shot.

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                      • #12
                        Deadwood Dick
                        Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 185

                        With any spray lube, including Dillon, you must wait for the alcohol to evaporate off.

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                        • #13
                          M27
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 871

                          With one shot let it sit for 10 min after spraying before you size

                          other than that I have had really good really good results with RCBS case slick
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                          • #14
                            JNunez23
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 2755

                            Yeah, it happens. I had a 9mm casing get stuck in a die. All I had to do was loosen the top nut of the die and it luckily came out. After I banged on it with a rubber mallet of course.

                            Lesson learned; but like others have pointed out, don't be shy with the lube..

                            Good luck buddy
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                            • #15
                              Cowboy T
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5725

                              RCBS's lube is excellent stuff.

                              The only time I use Hornady One-Shot is with the .44 Magnum and .45 Colt cases. Case lube of any sort isn't actually needed, since all my resizing dies are carbide, but with the larger cases, the One-Shot reduces friction considerably, making the resizing operation go very smoothly. This has three advantages:

                              1.) easier on the press,
                              2.) easier on the brass, and
                              3.) easier on my right arm. LOL
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