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  • ptroxx
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2259

    Noob Loading 40 S&W Is this ok. ?

    I just want to make sure im getting the correct supplies...
    Im going to purchase Berrys bullets, I have everything else

    BERRYS .40/10MM (.401) 165 GR FP
    CCI #500 SMALL PISTOL PRIMERS
    once fired brass. ..
    Bullseye powder 4.8 to 5.4 max

    I always load way under max being new. I Would do 4.8 to 5 on these

    Shooting out of a M & P 40..


    Im new to reloading and just want to make sure im ok.. I have only reloaded my 9mm so for 1000 rnds all good so far.

    Thanks in advance for the help..
  • #2
    Bill Steele
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 5028

    Looks good.

    Don't make a ton up in the lighter loadings before you have a chance to test them as at some point your gun may fail to cycle.
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    • #3
      ptroxx
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 2259

      Originally posted by Bill Steele
      Looks good.

      Don't make a ton up in the lighter loadings before you have a chance to test them as at some point your gun may fail to cycle.
      Ill only do like 50-100 and hit the range and see how they do..

      Thanks for the help..

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      • #4
        bruceflinch
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        • Jan 2006
        • 40127

        In my experience, the Mid-range loads are the most accurate, & you don't have to beat up your gun or your hand.
        Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

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        • #5
          ptroxx
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 2259

          Originally posted by bruceflinch
          In my experience, the Mid-range loads are the most accurate, & you don't have to beat up your gun or your hand.
          Thank you thats kinda my plan... just ordered my bullets..
          Powdervalley just got a big lod of bullets in I have been waiting for them for a few weeks now..cant wait to get started .. Soon im going to move on to rifle loads... More questions to come about them ..LOL

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          • #6
            tiller
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 794

            Originally posted by ptroxx
            Thank you thats kinda my plan... just ordered my bullets..
            Powdervalley just got a big lod of bullets in I have been waiting for them for a few weeks now..cant wait to get started .. Soon im going to move on to rifle loads... More questions to come about them ..LOL
            Just started loading 40 myself....

            I started off with 165's over 5 grains of unique and they were quit snapppy...

            I went up to 180's withthe same amount of powder and i feel thats the perfect loadfor me... Very nice recoil! And there ad accurate as i Am soo...

            Play around a bit... You might find so dthing more you like
            .223 & .308 brass processing

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            • #7
              rsrocket1
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 2768

              Your biggest challenge might be in getting the right OAL. The first bullets I ever bought for my M&P40 FS were factory reloads which were 1.135". They fed fine and I've loaded all my bullets to that length since then and they all fed fine. Not sure if it was the gun or that the first autoloader I loaded for (1911) was fickle, but that gun was very sensitive to OAL on anything other than RN bullets.

              If your gun likes a particular type of ammo, measure it and start your reloads at that length. 4.8-5.0g Bullseye is fairly conservative so you have a bit of margin in seating depth.

              Even with your light loads, you'll see that your 40 is a bit jumpier than the 9mm. With faster powders like Red Dot or Clays, you can download the 40 until it feels like a 9.

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              • #8
                Fishslayer
                In Memoriam
                • Jan 2010
                • 13035

                Originally posted by bruceflinch
                In my experience, the Mid-range loads are the most accurate, & you don't have to beat up your gun or your hand.
                ^^^ This. With plated bullets I've found they start to spread out well before reaching max load.

                If you're anywhere near minimum ya might not want to load up a whole bunch. Be a shame to have to pull down 50-100 rounds because they won't cycle.
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                • #9
                  chknlyps2
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 2191

                  Originally posted by ptroxx
                  Ill only do like 50-100 and hit the range and see how they do..

                  Thanks for the help..
                  I am using same bullet and powder and found 5.2 grains to be my sweet spot. Might only want to load a few at the lighter load incase they don't cycle.
                  Wanted: Spent Berdan primed Yugo 7.62x39 & 7.5x55 GP11 Swiss brass

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                  • #10
                    shooterbill
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1096

                    Order your bullets straight from Berry's. If you spend $50, shipping is included in the price.

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                    • #11
                      boomer135
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 580

                      I do the same I start at a mid-load, then work up if I feel I can get better accuracy. With my test loads I just load about 20 of each load. 10 for slow fire, and the next 10 for rapid fire.

                      Originally posted by bruceflinch
                      In my experience, the Mid-range loads are the most accurate, & you don't have to beat up your gun or your hand.

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                      • #12
                        ptroxx
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 2259

                        Originally posted by shooterbill
                        Order your bullets straight from Berry's. If you spend $50, shipping is included in the price.
                        Cheaper at powdervalley, 99.00 and 134 at berrys ..


                        Thanks for all the great info everyone..

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                        • #13
                          mjmagee67
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 2771

                          If you like Berry's you might want to give Xtreme a try. They are out of the Reno area, make great plated and lead boolits and cost less to boot.

                          Your reloading plan sounds good too. Start low work your way up, you will end up low the more you shoot! Mid power shoot better, easier on the gun and hands and your powder goes farther.
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                          • #14
                            echang72
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 557

                            Originally posted by mjmagee67
                            If you like Berry's you might want to give Xtreme a try. They are out of the Reno area, make great plated and lead boolits and cost less to boot.

                            Your reloading plan sounds good too. Start low work your way up, you will end up low the more you shoot! Mid power shoot better, easier on the gun and hands and your powder goes farther.
                            +1 to xtreme .. i like using their bullets.. had no problems with them so far.. just picked up 1k of .45 230 gr RN plated for 116. if your going to get .40 its probably a little cheaper.

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                            • #15
                              BLR81
                              Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 347

                              Originally posted by mjmagee67
                              If you like Berry's you might want to give Xtreme a try. They are out of the Reno area, make great plated and lead boolits and cost less to boot.

                              Your reloading plan sounds good too. Start low work your way up, you will end up low the more you shoot! Mid power shoot better, easier on the gun and hands and your powder goes farther.
                              I bought a box of 500 165gr Xtreme 40 cal. RNFP at Discount Shooters Supply in Roseville for $49.99. With W231 the start is around 4.8 and the max according to my Lee Data Manual is 5.3. I ran some load test down to 4.2, and some of my best grouping at 4.6 and 4.8. And no problems cycling my S&W 4006 even at 4.2. The thinner coating on the plated bullets lowers your mid range, IMO.

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