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  • echang72
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 557

    Seating die issues.. help!

    I just recently started reloading with the dillon square deal B. On my third station, the seating die, my bullets have a ring .. where it looks like the seating die is pressing down on the bullet. It leaves a circular crease/ indentation. I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem as I am... or had.. and if anyone got this fixed.. I am reloading with x-treme bullets.45 230gr RN.

    I have changed the seating die to the RN one.


    Thanks in advanced! [:

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    Last edited by echang72; 11-24-2012, 3:02 AM.
  • #2
    HighLander51
    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 5144

    Your press should have come with 2 seats, one for flat nose/truncated, and the other for round nose. Try the flat one with your bullets.

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    • #3
      not-fishing
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 2270

      Cases belled enough??
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      • #4
        HighLander51
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 5144

        Originally posted by not-fishing
        Cases belled enough??
        There is no deformation on the case, just the bullet face. It's the wrong seating die face. Although marks on the bullet have no real effect for normal pistol distance.

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        • #5
          Dutch Henry
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 733

          From the looks of your bullet, I would suggest that you change the seating plug from SWC to RN.

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          • #6
            echang72
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 557

            It is the Round nose seating die...

            Originally posted by Dutch Henry
            From the looks of your bullet, I would suggest that you change the seating plug from SWC to RN.

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            • #7
              echang72
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 557

              i used both.. the other one... just left a smaller circle at the tip of the bullet..

              Originally posted by HighLander51
              Your press should have come with 2 seats, one for flat nose/truncated, and the other for round nose. Try the flat one with your bullets.

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              • #8
                Dutch Henry
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 733

                If the bullets are plated lead, the plugs could be marking them due to the lead being softer than real copper jacketing material. A tighter than normal friction fit, due to thicker case walls, could also be the culprit. Are you by any chance applying a overly tight taper crimp while seating the bullets?

                I use RCBS dies and I must confess that I've never had bullets that were marked like that. If you've loaded a number, I'd go ahead and shoot them as the marks aren't anywhere near where they would engage the rifling and cause accuracy problems.

                Lastly, check the seating plugs and verify that they are the correct caliber. If that checks out, call Dillon Customer Service and explain it to them. They can probably supply the correct answer. Good luck to you.

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                • #9
                  Chief-7700
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 3382

                  Real simple call Dillon @ 1.800.223.4570.

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                  • #10
                    stand125
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 1451

                    I have no idea, but what powder are you using? Is the powder filling the case so much that you are compressing it and therefore putting alot of pressure on the bullet to get it into the case.
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                    • #11
                      buffybuster
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2615

                      Hard to say, just from the picture, but it looks like too much taper crimp. Like the die is trying to crimp as the bullet is being seated. Try backing the die out a couple turns and reset the OAL.
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                      • #12
                        Bill Steele
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5028

                        As mentioned above, if the headstamp you are loading is one of the thicker types, the sizing die will end up making the neck tension pretty stout, this can increase the pressure required to seat the bullet. Headstamps like Fiocchi, CBC and others have thicker brass. If you have any R-P or TZZ headstamp brass, try them and see if the marking is less.

                        Another possibility,I think Xtreme only offer .452 in 230gr RN. Again with brass on the thicker side, with fatter bullets more force is required to seat. Again, you can probably use a thinner headstamp like R-P and it will diminish the marking. Next time, try some .451 bullets.
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                        • #13
                          echang72
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 557

                          thank you all for the replies! hopefully i can get this issue resolved quickly [:

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                          • #14
                            Dark Mod
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 4284

                            Could be the bullets are shaped differently than the plug, putting all the pressure on the bottom. Since thats not something you can easily fix, maybe try reducing the resistance the bullet is experiencing when being seated? Try belling the case more, using more lube on the inside of the case mouth, or operating the handle smoother?

                            Not a legitimate fix but you may eliminate some of the posibilities

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                            • #15
                              fscroggs
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 3

                              I am having the same issue with 45 ACP RN X-Treme Plated Bullets on my Square Deal B. I had some older West Coast Bullets and tried a few. They did NOT indent. Bumping this up in case anyone else has found a solution.

                              Thanks

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