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  • cc56
    Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 746

    Primer color

    I was at the range today and I picked up my brass. So my question is, the "gold" colored primers are factory fresh right? Then the "silver" primers are reloads right? So... If I go through my stash and pick out the gold primers then I can pretty safely expect those to be once fired only? Also How often do you guys measure 45ACP brass that has been fired?
  • #2
    ETD1010
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 1298

    not always true. From my experience in reloading, Winchester primers are gold, CCI primers are "silver." best way I can see if a round has been reloaded is to look for the marks left by the resizer. not sure if pistol rounds show this as much as rifle.... other than that, I don't care if it's once fired or not... it's free!!

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    • #3
      jandmtv
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2007
      • 5800

      Originally posted by ETD1010
      not always true. From my experience in reloading, Winchester primers are gold, CCI primers are "silver." best way I can see if a round has been reloaded is to look for the marks left by the resizer. not sure if pistol rounds show this as much as rifle.... other than that, I don't care if it's once fired or not... it's free!!
      a big +1


      i just inspect them once i get home, most of the range pick-up brass is once fired anyway, darn mil crimps give that away.
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      • #4
        ar15barrels
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        • Jan 2006
        • 57157

        Old Winchester (component) primers are silver.
        About 5 years ago or so, they started making them without the nickel plating.
        Just because they are silver or gold, you can't use that to determine if brass you scrounge is new, once fired, reloaded or otherwise.
        The better thing to watch is to look for extraction/ejection marks.
        This is just too tedious to matter in most cases though.
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        • #5
          grywlfbg
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 988

          As others have said - no guarantee. I use CCI #41 military primers in my reloads and they're gold.

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          • #6
            CAT_101
            Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 183

            Originally posted by cc56
            Also How often do you guys measure 45ACP brass that has been fired?
            I use to measure mine every other time but found that the case will fail befor it gets too long. I usaly get over 12 reloads on a 45ACP case. But that is using the IDPA PF of 165 = 712 FPS with a 230 gr.
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            • #7
              ViPER395
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2007
              • 7857

              Primer color will not tell you if you're firing reloads or fresh brass.
              Originally posted by Rainbow Warrior
              Liberals didn't invent douchebaggery but they certainly perfected it.

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              • #8
                bohoki
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 20825

                Originally posted by ViPER395
                Primer color will not tell you if you're firing reloads or fresh brass.
                well i'm thinking if you see "gold" primers in cases other than winchester it would probably be safe to assume it was reloaded

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                • #9
                  ViPER395
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 7857

                  Originally posted by bohoki
                  well i'm thinking if you see "gold" primers in cases other than winchester it would probably be safe to assume it was reloaded
                  Remington use gold colored, and some Wolf is gold (really dark).

                  Federal use silver (at least in American Eagle)

                  CCI use silver

                  Winchester uses gold.

                  according to what I have on the top of the stacks right now.
                  Originally posted by Rainbow Warrior
                  Liberals didn't invent douchebaggery but they certainly perfected it.

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                  • #10
                    bohoki
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 20825

                    Originally posted by ViPER395
                    Remington use gold colored, and some Wolf is gold (really dark).

                    Federal use silver (at least in American Eagle)

                    CCI use silver

                    Winchester uses gold.

                    according to what I have on the top of the stacks right now.

                    wow remington went to non plated primers may i ask the cartridge designation you have in front of you?

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                    • #11
                      ViPER395
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 7857

                      Originally posted by bohoki
                      wow remington went to non plated primers may i ask the cartridge designation you have in front of you?
                      Ya ya. Hold on. Let me do a more thorough check.
                      Originally posted by Rainbow Warrior
                      Liberals didn't invent douchebaggery but they certainly perfected it.

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                      • #12
                        ViPER395
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 7857

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                        Originally posted by Rainbow Warrior
                        Liberals didn't invent douchebaggery but they certainly perfected it.

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