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  • highender
    Practical Googleplex Guy
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2012
    • 5919

    corrosive ammo

    Hello : Dumb question:
    I bought some ammo that is corrosiive, and I heard that some people use Windex with ammonia to clean the barrel/bore, then finish regular cleaning and oiling procedure. Some even advocate doing this at the range .

    Is it really necessary to clean the bore at the range, after shooting?

    What is the best solvent or cleaner to use to get rid of the acids ? Is ammonia windex the best ? Any other suggestions ?

    Any need to clean the action ?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Rem222
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1332

    I run a wet patch of windex down the bore before leaving the range. At home hot water down the barrel and then clean as usual. I also clean the bolt face.

    My shooting friend waits until getting home to clean his rifle and it's fine.

    Mosin Nagants by the way...
    Last edited by Rem222; 11-09-2012, 6:34 PM.

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    • #3
      rsrocket1
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 2769

      There are no acids. Potassium Chlorate is in the primer rather than Lead Styphnate. The Potassium salts attract water which will rust the barrel/action in time.

      All you need to do is run water through the barrel and action if it is an AK, or just down the barrel if it is a 91/30. Wipe it down, spray something like Rem Oil over it and clean it when you get home. The Potassium salts are water soluble and will rinse out.

      Windex in unnecessary, as Rem222 said, you won't get a rusty barrel if you simply clean it when you get home rather than do the rinse job at the range.

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      • #4
        highender
        Practical Googleplex Guy
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2012
        • 5919

        thanks.... got it.
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        • #5
          VegasND
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2007
          • 8621

          I never use Windex or other glass cleaners.

          I never clean at the range; that night, or even the next day if you live in a dry climate, is fine.

          The paranoia over corrosive ammo continues to amaze me. When I was a kid surplus corrosive ammo was everywhere and the WWII/Korean War Vets who taught kids to shoot never stressed over cleaning.

          Enjoy shooting, then clean and properly lubricate.
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          • #6
            Gio
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 10251

            If there is no water in sight other than good drinking water, you can urinate down the barrel and on the parts to get rid of the salts
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            • #7
              JHermsen
              Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 398

              When you get home pour a kettle of boiling water down the muzzle, clean and lube as normal, done.

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              • #8
                highender
                Practical Googleplex Guy
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Apr 2012
                • 5919

                OK,, so I pour water , hot, down the muzzle, which gets the action and all other parts wet..... , then disassemble and dry , then clean and lube, right ?

                I have a Howa 1500 .308 rifle with sights. What do you all think ??
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                • #9
                  stand125
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 1451

                  After I get home from the range i spray some windex down the end of the barrel and run a few patches down and I spray the bolt down and wipe it off. I then oil the barrel and bolt and call it good. I agree that in the summer it is not as critical to clean the same day but winter time in Nor Cal the rust will show up pretty quick if not cleaned and oiled. I could not tell you the last time I stripped my Mosin down and I've been shooting my 1938 Tula for about 5 years.
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                  • #10
                    Jack1939
                    Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 122

                    hoppes #9

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                    • #11
                      hylander
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3855

                      Originally posted by highender
                      OK,, so I pour water , hot, down the muzzle, which gets the action and all other parts wet..... , then disassemble and dry , then clean and lube, right ?

                      I have a Howa 1500 .308 rifle with sights. What do you all think ??
                      Short answer, No.
                      Long answer: Contrary to what VegasND said, corrosive ammo is just that, corrosive. All those Mosins and other milsurps didn't just rust up and pit
                      all on their own.

                      Do not pour water all over everything.
                      Get a small squirt or spray bottle, like 2-4 oz. fill with plain old cold water.
                      Remove bolt, hold rifle with muzzle down.
                      Squirt water down the barrel, just an once or two and let it run out the muzzle. Lay rifle down on bench for a minute or two.
                      Next run a patch wet with water down the bore, then run a couple dry patches down the bore to get the water out, then clean and oil as normal.
                      Also wipe the bolt face off with wet water patch, dry and then oil.
                      Failure is not an Option

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                      • #12
                        VegasND
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 8621

                        You're saying NOT to clean after shooting corrosive ammo?
                        Originally posted by hylander
                        Contrary to what VegasND said,
                        Where did I say otherwise?
                        corrosive ammo is just that, corrosive. All those Mosins and other milsurps didn't just rust up and pit
                        all on their own.
                        ...
                        People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
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                        • #13
                          gorblimey
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 1522

                          Hot/boiling water down the bore (and gas tube, if applicable) from the chamber end, using a funnel. Clean bolt face likewise (and gas piston, if applicable). Hit with WD-40, blow everything out with air compressor, then clean as usual.

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                          • #14
                            hylander
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 3855

                            Originally posted by VegasND
                            You're saying NOT to clean after shooting corrosive ammo?

                            Where did I say otherwise?

                            Your original post is leading one to believe that one need not be concerned about corrosive ammo doing any damage

                            The paranoia over corrosive ammo continues to amaze me. When I was a kid surplus corrosive ammo was everywhere and the WWII/Korean War Vets who taught kids to shoot never stressed over cleaning.
                            Failure is not an Option

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                            • #15
                              ostaF
                              Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 162

                              Bring a 40 of mickeys to the range and pour it down the barrel before you leave. Clean and lube while driving home.
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