Am I high? Dillon square deal B

[SARC_Mike]

Ok,
So I have been reloading long enough to call myself competant. I started with the Lee pro1000 which has now become my "progressive high speed" decapping machine so I can remove primers before stainless tumbling. I now am reloading with my wonderfully awesome dillon 650. Currently I only load .40 and 9mm so I dont have to mess with primer seating, case feeder plates and so forth.

I am considering finally loading .45. But I dont want to mess with my 650's primer feed and all that. Would I be stupid to get a square deal and make it exclusively for .45.

My averages lately have been about 10k .40 a month and 6-7k 9mm a month although the number for 9mm is going to increase dramaticly with my wife getting a new 9mm and shooting about 850 rounds a week.

For .45 I dont see myself loading more than 1k rounds a month.

So square deal users...what do you think? Decent option?

[XDRoX]

With those numbers a 1050 would pay for itself in no time at all.
The only problem with the SDB is no case feeder/bullet feeder options. So it would be slower than your 650.

But seriously, if I loaded 20 thousand rounds a month I'd be doing it on 1050's. Think of all the time you'd save.

Also, have you considered going with SPP 45 so you don't have to change the primer assemblies over?

[ExtremeX]

Man that’s some crazy volume…

You can probably accomplish that with the 650 you already have but the Dillon 1050 would probably be the right choice, but I have no personal experience with the machine…

I don’t know many people that need a 1050 but you probably one of em…

[shooterbill]

You might just use small primer 45 cases. Then you wouldn't need to change primer system.

[SARC_Mike]

No need at all for a 1050...my 650 does the volume without breaking a sweat.
I want to keep the 650 small primer and small casefeeder intact to make caliber changes quick. .45 small primer concerns me because all my range pickups are lpp.

[SARC_Mike]

One day I will have a 1050 for each caliber but that day is not near

[Sunday]

There is no need to remove the primers before tumbling.

[SARC_Mike]

There is no need to remove the primers before tumbling.

It makes me happy seeing the primer pocket shiny. I know it isnt needed, but I like it. Also the 650 primer catch sucks and the way Ive set up the pro1k all my spent primers fall in the trash can easily and cleanly. I also resize my .40 with a standard sizing die when depriming, then tumble then use the U die in the 650.

[TWheeler45]

I've been running a Square Deal for loading 45 for the last 3 years and I've never had an issue with the volumes you're talking about. My volumes typically range from 1k-3k a month and it's never been a problem. I would comfortably run 200-300/hr and since I picked up a primer filler, I routinely run 300-400/hr without too much trouble. Obviously the down side is if you like something other than the standard Dillon dies, your out of luck. But, for the money it's a solid dedicated caliber machine.

[SARC_Mike]

The sq deal comes with dies right...so if I am doing one caliber it shouldnt matter...

right???

[Na-vah-duh]

I would suggest another XL-650. I have two, one set up for large primers, and small primers. I could not load without the casefeeder I have been spoiled with it.

Also by having two XL-650's You can always easily swap powder dispensers from each unit when a specific caliber requires more / less powder without changing the charge bar.

Dillon fan

[CSACANNONEER]

I'd suggest a 550 over a SD. The SD dies are proprietary and I just don't like the SD at all. Besides, a 550 is much more versatile than either a SD or a 650. It is A LOT faster and cheaper for caliber conversions for a 550 and it uses standard dies. Then again, I'm the odd man out on this form since, I prefer the simplicity and versatility of the 550 so much that I kept my 550 and traded off my 650.

[TWheeler45]

Yeah, the Square Deal comes with a set of dies when you buy it. The only issue I ever had was that I had a 1911 with a match barrel that was so tight it would only feed ammo that had been run with a slightly undersized die and since the dies on the SqD are unique to that machine, I couldn't switch to a different die.

[HighLander51]

Yeah, the Square Deal comes with a set of dies when you buy it. The only issue I ever had was that I had a 1911 with a match barrel that was so tight it would only feed ammo that had been run with a slightly undersized die and since the dies on the SqD are unique to that machine, I couldn't switch to a different die.

That's not a loading issue, that's a barrel chamber issue. You have to finish ream match barrels to your load. I have been running a Dillon Square Deal for 12 years, about 15,000-20,000 a year, no issues, just not as fast as a 650, and nowhere near as fast as a 1050. About 400 an hour

[curisu]

if the only reason you want another machine is the hassle of primer size changes, just buy the 2nd set.

here's a sort of link: http://www.brianenos.com/store/dillon.conv.650.html

Scroll down to the Priming Quick-Change, Powder Check Systems & Conversions section.

To change out the primer system, you'd need to remove the case plate, remove 2 bolts holding the primer feed system in, replace the primer plunger with the larger version, change the primer-warning box up top, and reverse the above steps.

Not idiot-proof, but done once or twice, you should be able to do it in less than 2 minutes.

But given the volume you and your wife shoot, I'd say a 2nd 650 wouldn't be a bad investment. I think you'd make up the costs of the 2nd system on reloads alone inside of a year.