New Hornady 2267 or Pull Downs for 55gr reloads.

[ExtremeX]

[Bill Steele]

It can depend on how they were pulled down. If they were pulled with a collet, they will be slightly damaged. I generally don't use pulldown bullets for anything but fouling rounds.

Having said that, lately my cheapo 150gr FMJ pulldowns have been grouping better than my best 155gr AMAX loads, but there is more to that story. Kind of frustrating when your best one ragged hole group are the first 5 shots in the morning with pulldown bullets.

[sargenv]

I've used a few k of pulldowns, they all had a small gash from the tool that pulled them apart and I couldn't tell the difference between factory or my reloads.. but they both held minute of 10" plate at 200 yards with a properly sighted in rifle. They are likely a bit less accurate but completely ok for blasting ammo.. they also held minute of clay target at about 50 yards.. more that accurate enough for my needs..

[ExtremeX]

Thanks for your input… I think I may be better of just buying new projectiles…

I usually load match ammo for my ARs… V-Max, Hornady 68gr Match, and 77gr SMK… I’m looking to maintain better than minute of clay at 50 yards. 200 yards would be a little better for me.

Can anyone comment on the accuracy of the Hornady 55gr #2267, I really hope my groups / accuracy don’t fall off just because I started using cheaper projectile. I really want to lower my cost while maintaining some level of accuracy because I don’t always require using match bullets.

[M27]

I would say that the Hornady 55gr #2267 would replicate any accuracy M193 has and may even be better with hand loads

I would not say that it is the same accuracy as 68gn V-max or 77gn SMKs

[shooterbill]

The Hornady 55's work really good. Accuracy has been good. They are not match bullets, so they vary in weight and length. Some of the pull down bullets lately have been very distorted. They have been out of round and wobble when rolled. Try to get the air pulled instead of machine pulled. If you get the machine pulled, ask if they have been sized.

[Colt562]

I was thinking about using the pull down bullets but was also afraid of the accuracy. Tagged to see what people say.

[ExtremeX]

Thanks everyone, I think the pull downs are not for me… I just ordered some new Hornady #2267 bullets.

I hope to get better accuracy than standard Federal XM193 ammo…

Does anyone have any pet loads that work for them?

I will be starting my load dev using both H335 and BL-C2 (which is what I currently use for my match ammo).

[Bill Steele]

I don't load .223 so I can't speak for those bullets. I have had terrific luck with most Hornaday bullets. I can get get .2 MOA with Hornaday 168gr AMAXs through my Rem 700. I think they are the deal of the century compared to more expensive options. On the other hand, I was trying some 155's in an attempt to maybe reach out a little further than the 168's might do, they would not group for beans.

When I started looking closely at them, I realized the ogive's were all over the place, like +\- .006". Hornaday tech could not explain it, I chalked it up to maybe getting som knock offs, and while they did come without being packaged in plastic, it did have the Hornaday seal on the box.

Maybe I would try 100 and see how they go. They should be in a plastic bag inside the box, if they aren't send them back.

[gregshin]

How about air pulled bullets?

[M27]

check this out they have 193 projectiles that are new surplus not pulled

http://www.rvow.com/server/index.php/projectiles