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  • bnate
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 84

    2 different RCBS die sets for 38/357

    Found two different 38 special and 357 die sets (both RCBS 3-die carbide sets)

    ...BUT they have 2 different part numbers from RCBS.

    P/n 18212 - Says "357 Mag / 38 spl / 357Max"


    P/n 18215 - Says "357 Mag / 38 spl / 357MX"


    What is the difference and which should I get to cover all 357?

    Thx in advance.

    Nate
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  • #2
    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19110

    Did you call RCBS? Is one carbide? Is one role crimp and the other a taper crimp?

    Call them - they have solid customer service
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
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    • #3
      bnate
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 84

      Originally posted by hermosabeach
      Did you call RCBS? Is one carbide? Is one role crimp and the other a taper crimp?

      Call them - they have solid customer service
      Thx, found these at a gun show today, new. Both are Carbide, not sure on the role vs. taper crimp. Was trying to read through the literature it came with.

      I think the difference has something to do with 357 MAX vs. 357 MX. The case length...but the die sizes seemed the same.



      ...Not sure on the MX designation of the 357 round. If one is longer than another, then I would guess I could buy that die set and do any 357 version.

      Once the weekend's out, I'll probably have to call RCBS cust service

      Thx
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      • #4
        XDRoX
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4420

        That's weird. My 357 maximum dies are completely different than my 357mag/38spl dies.

        As far as I knew you needed different dies for Maximum.
        Chris
        <----Rimfire Addict


        Originally posted by Oceanbob
        Get a DILLON...

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        • #5
          CCrawford
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2010
          • 497

          18212 - Roll Crimp

          18215 - Taper Crimp

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          • #6
            bnate
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 84

            Originally posted by CCrawford
            18212 - Roll Crimp

            18215 - Taper Crimp
            thx...missed it right in front of me.

            THX
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            • #7
              Sardine
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 16

              Why would they make a taper crimp for either one of these cartridges? I use the same carbide crimp die for 38 & 357, just back out the die for 357 so it crimps higher.

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              • #8
                wtkaiser
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 660

                Perhaps for guns like the Coonan arms semi-auto .357, but that makes no sense, it's still a rimmed cartridge. A good question!

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                • #9
                  Munk
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 2124

                  Originally posted by Sardine
                  Why would they make a taper crimp for either one of these cartridges? I use the same carbide crimp die for 38 & 357, just back out the die for 357 so it crimps higher.
                  because some people don't want to use a roll crimp when they're not using the cannelure.
                  Originally posted by greasemonkey
                  1911's instill fairy dust in the bullets, making them more deadly.

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                  • #10
                    fguffey
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1408

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