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  • goodlookin1
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2557

    Looking To Get A Progressive Press....Where To Start?

    Hey guys,

    I've been reloading for about 3-4 years now on my Lee Classic Turret press, and it gets the job done, but I cna only do so much. Fastest I've gone with some .45 ACP ammo once the cases were all prepped was 50 rounds in 18 minutes. Not terrible with a turret press with the auto indexer taken off. But not good enough.

    It's time to dive into the progressive world. And I know nothing.

    I've been looking at Dillon and RCBS loaders. From the guys who have experience with this stuff, what am I getting myself into here? A press is going to be $400-$600 in my range, but then the added accessories and blah blah blah.....I know it's gonna add up. Further, I am reloading right now for 6 different calibers! Realistically, I only need to reload bulk for 3, MAYBE 4. The other 2 or 3 I can continue in my current press because I dont shoot as much of those. My lee kit changes out super easily...just throw in the new die holder and new shell holder and bam, caliber changed! But is it that simple with a progressive? What I dont want to have to do is reset all the dies and powder measures for every caliber change.....that takes as long as reloading the slow way! (no progressive).

    I guess I just need some guidance, pointers and advice. I remember diving into reloading and found out pretty quickly what works and what doesnt. Basically with any kit, you tend to replace most of the stuff that it comes with for specific things that will speed up or accurize loading. I dont want to have to go through that routine again.

    Thanks,
    Ryan
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    shooterbill
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1096

    I have a Hornady LNL. Great press. Cheap to change calibers and easy to upgrade. I saw that Palmetto State Armory had the press for under $350. 500 free bullets also from Hornady.

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    • #3
      bigdrunk92037
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 734

      I have been running a classic turret with a hornady bullet feeder die. I can knock out ammo relatively fast, but like you, I am looking for more. Plus, I hate the priming system. I have resorted to placing each primer into the seater by hand now.

      Today, I ordered a Hornady LNL. I was on the fence between the LNL and the Dillon 650. I can get approx 18% off the Dillon and Hornady with my FFL03 dealer account. What finally forced me to make the decision was Palmetto Armory's deal of $345+free shipping for the Hornady. Deal ends tomorrow. I would order now! I am looking forward to 1 round of .45 being completed with each pull of the lever.

      Also, from what I have read, the Hornady powder feeder seems to be preferred over the Dillon. This is anecdotal info though.

      Can't wait.

      Oh yea, 500 free .308 bullets which I was about to order anyway effectively gets the price down to $250!!
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      • #4
        Bill Steele
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 5028

        I love my Dillon 550B, I shoot a lot and it produces trouble free ammo on demand. Very simple to setup and operate.

        Having said that, it sounds like you have everything you need but the press and with the number of calibers you want to load, I would also suggest the Hornaday LnL. A number of guys on these threads have the LnL AP and seem to like them just fine.

        I really like my quick change kits on my Dillon, but even with the 4 handgun calibers I load, those kits add up.

        On the other hand, if you do decide to spend the extra money on the Dillon, you will likely not be disappointed.

        As far as the powder drop not working as well on the Dillon, nonsense.
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        • #5
          JNunez23
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 2755

          I own a Lee Loamaster, which is a pain in the ***! If you can afford it, just start with a Dillon. I am looking into upgrading to a 550B now.

          Good luck!
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          • #6
            secret.asian.man
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 744

            Dillon 550B. can't beat their Customer Service either.

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            • #7
              Noah
              Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 272

              Rcbs press is a bit more but you may want to take a closer look at it given that you were concerned about caliber conversion. To the best of my knowledge that press changes over very fast.
              However, $345 plus 500 free bullets is impossible to beat.
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              • #8
                Noah
                Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 272

                Anyone still able to find the hornady for that $345 price... I found a LNL ap on palmetto's site but it says $406.99... Did I miss out or did I fail at my web searching?
                I would like to jump on one of these for that price.
                Thanks,
                Noah
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                • #9
                  DRAB_81
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2482

                  I wanted an auto-indexing progressive, so I went with the Dillon XL650. It takes a little more time to get your dies set up than the 550, but once they're where you want them it's smooth sailing. I can load 300rds an hour cruising, and 500rds if I'm on a mission. I paid a little over $1400 (new)for the XL650 set up for 9mm, Quick Change Kits for 45 & 10mm w/Toolhead Stands, Bullet Tray, Strong Mount, Case Feeder w/Small & Large Shell Plates, Extra Primer Pickup Tubes, Roller Handle, Wrench Set w/Mount & Powder Check Die. I probably forgot a few things, its been a while. It was a HUGE investment, but it's been worth every penny. I shoot a lot, so it's nice to be able to do bulk runs, which weren't much fun with my Rockchucker.

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                  • #10
                    Javi
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 4540

                    Originally posted by Noah
                    Anyone still able to find the hornady for that $345 price... I found a LNL ap on palmetto's site but it says $406.99... Did I miss out or did I fail at my web searching?
                    I would like to jump on one of these for that price.
                    Thanks,
                    Noah
                    It's still on. You have to plop it inside your cart and then check it out in there. Still $345.94.


                    What I really like about the RCBS press is the primer system. Very cool and pretty darn handy. I'd rather load up those strips(which looks very easy) then pick up primers with a tube, even though that doesn't look bad either. Their caliber changes look very similar to the Dillon's with those 3 or 4 hole blocks & pins.
                    Originally posted by d4v0s
                    My girlfriend and i used froglube last night in a pinch and it works great.
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                    • #11
                      DarkSoul
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 977

                      I have a basic Lee, and a Dillon 550, 650, and will be ordering a 1050 here in a week or so, I am a firm believer in the Dillon line.

                      The Dillon loaders are a bit more expensive (or a lot more depending on the model), but they are IMO the best made presses there are. If I am concentrating, I can load about 300-350 an hour on the 550, and on the 650 (with case feeder) I can run out 800 rounds an hour.

                      On the 650, it takes about 1.5-2 hours to fully set up a caliber, and powder level, then you are cruising, I have a tool head set up for each of the calibers I load in bulk, so 9mm, .45acp, 5.56, and will be setting up for .40 as well. I use the 550 for everything else. The Lee pretty much only gets used now for .40 push through sizing, decaping, and other crap jobs.

                      The 650 and 1050 are pretty complex to set up the first time, and NOT for the first time loader though, but since you are experienced, probably be no problem.

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                      • #12
                        Javi
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 4540

                        Who has that link to someone at another forum comparing the Lee, Hornady & Dillon? It was really well-thought out & in-depth.

                        Edit: Sorry, it wasn't a forum post: http://www.comrace.ca/cmfiles/dillon...Comparison.pdf
                        Last edited by Javi; 09-15-2012, 7:06 PM.
                        Originally posted by d4v0s
                        My girlfriend and i used froglube last night in a pinch and it works great.
                        R.I.P. Thomas C.

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                        • #13
                          Noah
                          Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 272

                          Thanks Javi,
                          Much appriciated.
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                          • #14
                            tvfreakarms
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 2362

                            Im wondering since Im new to reloading is the hornady progressive reloader a good deal on the palmentos website?
                            Or can it be had for cheaper?
                            I know a beginner shouldn't be handling a progressive but if this a really good deal then i can at least buy it and hold on to it. In the mean time.my buddy has a rock chucker i can practice on.
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                            • #15
                              tvfreakarms
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2362

                              Not only there's a rebate for 500 free bullets through hornady (well u have to pay for shipping but still a good deal)
                              But they also offer 100 semi free bullets if buy one of the following:
                              powder measure, custom grade dies (1 thru 5) or a magnum sonic cleaner (i already own a sonic cleaner)

                              Which of the first 2 would be a better buy powder measure or dies (i assume u will need both)?

                              I would like ur opinion.

                              Thanks
                              LLAP
                              Last edited by tvfreakarms; 09-16-2012, 3:54 AM.
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