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  • CEDaytonaRydr
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 4142

    Best "De-Glocking" solution

    Hey guys.

    So, I bought a case length gauge for 40 S&W because I'm about to do a caliber conversion on my Dillon and I wanted to see if my dies were getting the job done, or not...

    Well, after checking about 500 cases, I've discoveredd that they aren't...

    I saw that Redding makes a carbide system that looks nice, but for $75 I thought I'd see if there's a similar option at a lower price.

    What do you guys use?
  • #2
    XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    You shouldn't need any special dies to reload your Glock 40.
    What dies are you using now? Can you turn the sizing die down any lower? If you can that may fix your problem.

    Also it is possible that your case gauge is just too picky. Case gauges are made to the tightest specs. For example. I have a 9mm case gauge. If I load 500 9mm rounds about 5-10 won't case gauge. But they'll all shoot fine in my guns. The case gauge is way more picky than any of my eight 9mm's.

    If I load 500 380 rounds then about half won't case gauge. Yet they all fire fine in my gun. I just figured I got a really tight case gauge.

    So my point is just because your rounds won't case gauge doesn't mean that they won't work just fine. The real test is to see if they fit in your guns chamber and function.
    Chris
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    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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    • #3
      Bill Steele
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 5028

      Originally posted by XDRoX
      You shouldn't need any special dies to reload your Glock 40.
      What dies are you using now? Can you turn the sizing die down any lower? If you can that may fix your problem.

      Also it is possible that your case gauge is just too picky. Case gauges are made to the tightest specs. For example. I have a 9mm case gauge. If I load 500 9mm rounds about 5-10 won't case gauge. But they'll all shoot fine in my guns. The case gauge is way more picky than any of my eight 9mm's.

      If I load 500 380 rounds then about half won't case gauge. Yet they all fire fine in my gun. I just figured I got a really tight case gauge.

      So my point is just because your rounds won't case gauge doesn't mean that they won't work just fine. The real test is to see if they fit in your guns chamber and function.
      I agree.

      I load extremely hot 10mm and my Dillon sizer (which has some radius at the mouth) works fine for sizing and reloading this brass, BUT, that is for shooting out of another Glock. If I had a 10mm Wilson Combat with a match chamber, these rounds may not work.
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      • #4
        Gryff
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2006
        • 12693

        I've had several competitive shooters recommend these:

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        • #5
          Bill Steele
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 5028

          Originally posted by Gryff
          I've had several competitive shooters recommend these:

          http://www.egwguns.com/undersized-re...eloading-dies/
          Why would that work better than a standard Lee sizer as far as the Glock bulge is concerned?
          When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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          • #6
            Gryff
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2006
            • 12693

            Originally posted by Bill Steele
            Why would that work better than a standard Lee sizer as far as the Glock bulge is concerned?
            I've never used them, but this is what their website says:

            A must for the serious reloader: EGW offers custom designed, carbide sizing dies that are 0.001" smaller in diameter than typical dies. Not only is it smaller in diameter, the bottom corner is radiused which sizes the case further down. This helps prevent feed failures from cases that bulged near the base during reloading- which is typical of brass fired in Glocks and other loose chambered guns.
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            • #7
              Bill Steele
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 5028

              When they say it gets down farther on the case, they have to be comparing it to a die like Dillon, Hornaday, etc. with a radius on the mouth. The standard Lee die's sizing ring is in the same exact place as the U die, so it isn't going to take any more bulge out.
              When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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              • #8
                BlackDrop50
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 1023

                Lee bulge Buster is $16 and you really don't even need it, you can just take the internals out of the Lee Factory Crimp die and run them through it.

                Edit, actually the bulge buster kit comes with the shell pusher, but the GRX carbide kit comes with the fancy spring loaded one which could save you time and strain.

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                • #9
                  patrickstarfish
                  Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 335

                  I use Redding GRX and shoot with Barsto barrel for my G22. Feeds all the time.

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                  • #10
                    Flyin Brian
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 3395

                    +1 on the Lee bulge buster. Haven't used the Redding GRX but it looks like it does about the same thing, except the Lee is for finished rounds and the Redding is for processing empty cases before loading.
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                    • #11
                      Lead Waster
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 16650

                      I bought a Lee Bulge Buster for this exact purpose (and have yet to use it!)

                      Since I have the Lee 4 die pistol set for .40, I will just gut the FCD to use on the bulge buster then reassemble it for actual loading when I get around to it.

                      Some people say "What's the point? You already have the FCD, right?"

                      I suppose so, and I suppose that running it through the FCD negates the need to resize, but that's what you get for shooting .40 out of a glock!
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                      • #12
                        Longhill
                        Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 201

                        The Lee Bulge Buster works great, I went one step up and purchased a Casepro100.
                        The Casepro roll sizes the lower part of the case. I usually have problems with the rim of the cartridge being out of round, enough to where the case will not fit the case gauge after they were run though the sizing die(regular or unsized).
                        It's an expensive($678) tool, but one that works.

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                        • #13
                          CEDaytonaRydr
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 4142

                          Originally posted by Lead Waster
                          I bought a Lee Bulge Buster for this exact purpose (and have yet to use it!)

                          Since I have the Lee 4 die pistol set for .40, I will just gut the FCD to use on the bulge buster then reassemble it for actual loading when I get around to it.

                          Some people say "What's the point? You already have the FCD, right?"

                          I suppose so, and I suppose that running it through the FCD negates the need to resize, but that's what you get for shooting .40 out of a glock!
                          So, in theory, I could get the "bulge buster" and maybe run it at station 5 of my Dillon 650, correct?

                          If so, that sounds like the best idea...

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                          • #14
                            Lead Waster
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 16650

                            Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
                            So, in theory, I could get the "bulge buster" and maybe run it at station 5 of my Dillon 650, correct?

                            If so, that sounds like the best idea...

                            Well, actually in that case you would use the Lee Factory Crimp Die as intended. The idea of the bulge buster is that you use the LFCD, take out the insides so the die is just a carbide sizing ring and you shove a round all the way through it so it is resized from top to bottom.

                            On a single stage press, I might do it after normal resizing/decapping, on a progressive I would probably do it before it touches the press. I'm not sure if people do it AFTER fully loading a round.

                            if you use the LFCD as the last stage, then it's just as a normal die and won't get the very very bottom of the case IF YOU THINK THAT MATTERS. Some people will say that, well, the finished round went 90% up the LFCD, so there is no real reason to shove it all the way through.

                            There are some dies that claim to resize FULL LENGTH as part of the sizing/depriming stage. There are some special run Lee sizer dies that are bevelled at the bottom so when you resize, they resize everything. Not sure how that works with the shellplate though, let me google....



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                            Remember to dial 1 before 911.

                            Forget about stopping power. If you can't hit it, you can't stop it.

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                            • #15
                              gotglock99
                              Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 133

                              If u have a progressive use the Lee crimp die. Take out the guts and run the case with the bottom facing up. Make sure to lube all brass. Look on YouTube for videos. Takes out the bulge.

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