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  • MK75
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 491

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    I want to start making "gnats ***" accuracy reloads.
    Before presenting my question to the learned minds of CalGunners I did some research.
    Here is what I came up with for case prep.
    Let me know what you think and what I should change.
    Any input at all from truelly experienced reloaders would be appreciated.
    (FF)=fire formed
    (NB)=new brass

    1. Inspect brass and flash holes.
    2. (FF) Deprime (w/ universal deprimer)
    3. Primer pocket cleaning
    4. Primer pocket uniforming
    5. Flash hole uniform
    6. Flash hole debur
    7. (FF) CLEAN BRASS WITH ULTRA SONIC CLEANER
    8. SORT BRASS BY LOT AND WEIGHT
    9. (FF) Neck Brush cases
    10. (NB) Lube Cases
    11. (NB) Full lenth Resize
    12. (FF) ANNEAL CASES (AS NEEDED)
    13. (FF) LUBE AND SHOULDER BUMP (AS NEEDED)
    14. Trim brass, debur & chamfer
    15. (FF) Neck size
    16. CLEAN OFF LUBE (any recomendations on the best way without tumbling?)
    17. Case inspection, Flash hole inspection
    18. Neck brush then prime
    Last edited by MK75; 12-16-2012, 9:05 PM. Reason: Closed
    If only accurate rifles are interesting, I am looking to be fascinated.
  • #2
    joelogic
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2008
    • 6597

    You need to hang out at the snipershide more. What you listed would be considered basic to them.

    Neck turning
    Meplat trimming
    jacket thickness measuring
    Check concentricity
    Last edited by joelogic; 09-05-2012, 10:47 PM.
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    • #3
      Colt562
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2012
      • 5271

      seems like you have to much time on your hands

      What do you plan on reloading for this? and how many cases?
      Originally posted by bruceflinch
      Tis Better, to be Overworked & Underpaid,
      Than Oversexed & Underlaid...

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      • #4
        kurac
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 2917

        I am pretty sure the benchrest guys are religous about turning their necks, you also should start of with some nice brass, Nosler, Lapua, or Norma
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        • #5
          MK75
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 491

          joelogic,

          Thanks man, I am looking into that and will head over there for sure.
          If only accurate rifles are interesting, I am looking to be fascinated.

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          • #6
            MK75
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 491

            Colt562,

            Dude!, in the time it took you to write that post you could have completed two quests and leveled up your Arcane Magic War Mage. You better hurry up and get back to that. Leave this thread to people with something interesting to say.

            To answer your semi-relevent/coherent question: I have a Weatherby that prints .5" groups with factory ammunition, and in the future I would like to acquire a LBC .308 Bolt Gun. I will be shooting/reloading alot.
            If only accurate rifles are interesting, I am looking to be fascinated.

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            • #7
              MK75
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 491

              kurac,

              Thanks, I will look into that. I have also heard that Norma, and Lapua are the way to go.
              If only accurate rifles are interesting, I am looking to be fascinated.

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              • #8
                Colt562
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2012
                • 5271

                Didn't mean it like that sOrry you took it the wrong way. Anywho, Might I suggest for you to find someone that reloads like this and have them show you the ropes. YouTube helps but I learn by doing stuff hands on
                Originally posted by bruceflinch
                Tis Better, to be Overworked & Underpaid,
                Than Oversexed & Underlaid...

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                • #9
                  MK75
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 491

                  Colt562,

                  Fair enough, no hard feelings. I am looking for someone who reloads like this; that was kinda the point of starting this thread. As far as having said individual actually come to my workshop and take me step by step through the procedure, I don't think that will be necessary. I have been on youtube and I have watched a bunch of videos, after applying some logic, I took bits and pieces from the ones I watched to come up with the list above. Now I was hoping someone with real experience could fine tune my procedure before I jump into it.
                  If only accurate rifles are interesting, I am looking to be fascinated.

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                  • #10
                    Bill Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5028

                    I am not a benchrest competitor, but I enjoy loading for precision. As JL pointed out, there is a lot in addition to your list to the process, but you have a good start. Another good place to go and check things out would be accurateshooter.com. Although the main focus of this site are the 6mm calibers, most of what they discuss applies to any caliber you are trying to make consistent.

                    You do want to remove the lube on your cases, chamber pressures can change when you don't remove the lube.

                    What caliber are you shooting?
                    When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                    • #11
                      MK75
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 491

                      Bill Steele,

                      Thanks for the advice, I will certainly check that out.
                      I am shooting and will be precision reloading for .270 and .308 Win.
                      If only accurate rifles are interesting, I am looking to be fascinated.

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                      • #12
                        Bill Steele
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5028

                        Originally posted by MK75
                        Bill Steele,

                        Thanks for the advice, I will certainly check that out.
                        I am shooting and will be precision reloading for .270 and .308 Win.
                        Lately I have gotten back into my .308. I pretty much do everything on your list.

                        Another thing you will want is a headspace gauge. When you are neck sizing, you can run into shoulder issues which will keep you from chambering a round. It seems the number of neck only sizings I can do before I need to bump the shoulder is related to the brass you are using. I find my FGMM cases are very soft and require I bump the shoulder as frequently as every other sizing. My Lapua brass seems to be able to go many firings before the shoulder needs to be adjusted. YMMV.

                        Oh and you want to try various trim lengths, so a good trimmer that you can set at a specific length is a nice tool to have. Lately I have been loading a lot of 168gr and 178gr AMAX's (good value) and have been using 2.005" for my trim (on the .308).

                        My 308 has a typical long factory throat, this presents other challenges, but I guess that isn't case prep related....
                        Last edited by Bill Steele; 09-06-2012, 11:49 AM.
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                        • #13
                          thomashoward
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                          That's just the brass prep.If your loads are not accurate at least you know it won't be brass.
                          The other parts of the equation are bullet/powder/primer combo and then seating depth.
                          Shoot a ladder, then go to seating depth.Measure everything and keep good notes so you can duplicate a good load
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                          • #14
                            mroels
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 912

                            Do you not have to lube when neck sizing only? I've only been loading for autos so been doing all fl sizing.

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                            • #15
                              Bill Steele
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 5028

                              Originally posted by mroels
                              Do you not have to lube when neck sizing only? I've only been loading for autos so been doing all fl sizing.
                              It depends on how you are neck sizing. If you use a Lee collet neck sizer, then no. If you use a sizer that sizes the neck in a conventional manner, then you should use lube. I think it was Calteacher (although I mught be wrong about that) that posted he used some of that mica lube as it lubed well and also gave him a visual indication how far down the neck his RCBS sizer went.
                              When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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