New reloading kit!

[tvfreakarms]

What brand of primers r good? And how about bullet brand? Not trying to spend a lot for the bullet.
Like i said on my first post i am reloading .45acp, 9mm luger and .223(5.56).

Thanks

[tvfreakarms]

It seems cal expo is having a gun show in October.
Does anyone know if this company sells good deals on primers?

http://www.mcmannsroadrunner.com/588269.html

[skibuff]

It seems cal expo is having a gun show in October.
Does anyone know if this company sells good deals on primers?


http://www.mcmannsroadrunner.com/588269.html

It's an OK show small compared to what it used to be. once you pay for the $10 cal expo parking and the $8 entry fee you are halfway to covering your hazmat at Graf's and Graf's is cheaper than the gun shows.

[tvfreakarms]

Can u send me a link? I can't seem to find that website.
I want to buy 8lbs of cfe .223 and 8lbs of win231 for my pistol. Or buy 4 1lbs to save on hazmat fee

Bulk de-mil'd on via web "in bulk" for rifle is cheapest for powder (4 8lb jugs, and they wave the HazMat fees), local next cheapest, and then gun show...

This is comparing from last weekend's gun show, but the primers were where the gun show savings were at... 5k primers for like $119, I believe it was... rifle and pistol.

You can get 3k 5.56 "pulled/de-mil'd" bullets for about 149+shipping via Hi-Tech Ammo.

The real cost savings can only be had IF you buy components in QTY, which is a hefty chunk'o'change.

[klewan]

Just get the 1# powder at the local gun shop, Discount Shooters Supply in your case. Get a kilo of primers while you're there. After you use that up and decide you really like reloading, then you might want to look into buying kegs of powder and cases of primers.

It will get really old, really fast, trying to load pistol or .223 ammo on that single stage press you bought. Old in that you'll be bored just sitting there pulling the handle over and over to get a loaded round. And that doesn't even consider all the crap you need to do with bottleneck rifle cartridges. Removing the primer crimp, trim to length, deburring the inside and outside of the neck; then you actually get to start loading....Take it slow.

[ExtremeX]

And that doesn't even consider all the crap you need to do with bottleneck rifle cartridges. Removing the primer crimp, trim to length, deburring the inside and outside of the neck; then you actually get to start loading....Take it slow.

[ahren111]

Anyone else in the sac area i could stop by and check ur reading set up?

Divernhunter offered but he is a little to far from us.

I'm up in shingle springs but I come to sac all the time. I've only been reloading for a few months but I'd be willing to swing by & help. If you want Pm me.

[ExtremeX]

Newbie here. When u say w231 what brand is that? Same goes for .223

Winchester 231 - Pistol Powder

H335 - Hodgdons

I started reloading with the same two powders as the other poster. Along with BL-C2 for heavier .223 bullets like 68gr and 77gr

I would pass on the CFE 223 as your first powder. I will eventually try it, but I started with something many others have used, which also had a large amount of load data behind for many bullet types.

[the86d]

Just get the 1# powder at the local gun shop, Discount Shooters Supply in your case. Get a kilo of primers while you're there. After you use that up and decide you really like reloading, then you might want to look into buying kegs of powder and cases of primers.
...

They sell primers by the kilo?!!??!

[tvfreakarms]

That makes sense. Yes i will take it slow because it does sound like a good idea. Who knows i may dislike all that work you guys r talking about.

Something to think about. I will try toe h335 and the win231.

Winchester 231 - Pistol Powder

H335 - Hodgdons

I started reloading with the same two powders as the other poster. Along with BL-C2 for heavier .223 bullets like 68gr and 77gr

I would pass on the CFE 223 as your first powder. I will eventually try it, but I started with something many others have used, which also had a large amount of load data behind for many bullet types.

[tvfreakarms]

I know people has mentioned to get at least 2 books. Any particular manuals to get? Which ones do you guys own?

[klewan]

Second Addition Lee Reloading, Lyman 49th, Speer or Hogdon. Those will cover about 95% of what you'll need.

[tvfreakarms]

Ok it seems like powder valley and midsouth shooters are having a labor day special where they will waive the hazmat fee.

Right now i want to reload 9mm luger, .45acp and my AR15 .223.
Since i never reloaded before i don't want to buy the match grade bullets and primers. I also don't plan on loading "hot" loads as well. Just regular loads for now.
I Mainly will shot through paper and what not. But i also don't want the crappy stuff.

So...

1: Rifle Powder: to start out with i may go with 1lb H355 and cfe223.
Pistol powder: W231.

2: Bullets for both my pistols and my .223. I may go with berry's at powder valley cause its cheap.
Also what does the "FP" stands for? It's sold out @powder valley (BERRYS 9MM (.356) 115 GR FP (1000) and the same brand bullet, what does "RN-DS" stand for? That's not sold out. Which one is better between the 2 and what's the difference?

I would rather buy the copper plated bullet for both my rifle and pistol. Will it say "copper plated"

3:As for primers i'm a little confused on what to get for my. For pistols and rifles, they have a choice of large and small primers. For example cci has #200 Large Rifle Primer #400 small rifle primer or #500 Small Pistol Primer or #300 large pistol primer. What does the #500's 400's 200's and so represents?
Should i get the large or small?


I plan on ordering this weekend. So any info would be great.

I guess people has suggested to get carbide dies for my pistols and full length die set for my .223.
I guess lube is needed as well. What type of lube should i get?

Someone here mentioned about "military crimp" on brass casing. I know i bought some military ammo's so i assume there will be the military crimp. I looked it up online but i can't seem to tell the difference.

Since my buddy did buy a rcbs brand reloading kit what r your thoughts on the RCBS Swage Combo $30? Is this swage kit only for removing "military crimping"? Or will this kit remove none military crimp? (if there is a such thing)

For rifle casing's, they need to b trim, chamfer and debur the cases. Does the pistol casing needs the same treatment?

Thanks!

[XDRoX]

FP stands for flat point.
RN stands for round nose.
DS stands for double struck. Berry's double strikes all their bullets nowadays I believe. They don't advertise DS any longer I don't think. Powder Valley probably didn't get the memo.

All of Berry's are plated.

You don't have to worry about how CCI labels their primers, 500, 300, etc... Just a label.

For 9mm you need small pistol.
For 45 you need large pistol. Some of the newer 45 takes small pistol primer but it's rarer.
For 223 you need small rifle. Or you can buy AR specific primers. I just use their normal #400 for my AR, they work fine.

For lube I like Hornady's One Shot. Dillon also makes a spray lube. Don't but any lube that's not a spray like RCBS.


Some of your 223 cases may have crimped primer pockets. Google a photo of a crimped primer pocket. You can tell right away by looking if they're crimped.
If they are crimped and if you want to reload them you have to swage them first. That $30 RCBS swager works fine. Dillon makes a nicer one for $100.

If you load a lot of 223, you'll want a swager, because a lot of that brass is crimped.


You'll also need a trimmer for the 223 but you don't trim 9mm or 45acp.

Loading rifle is a lot more work than pistol. Another whole ball game. Not as much fun and way more tedious. I stopped loading for 223 and just buy it now. I do still load all my pistol rounds though.

Hope theis helps.

[tvfreakarms]

Thanks!

FP stands for flat point.
RN stands for round nose.
DS stands for double struck. Berry's double strikes all their bullets nowadays I believe. They don't advertise DS any longer I don't think. Powder Valley probably didn't get the memo.

All of Berry's are plated.

You don't have to worry about how CCI labels their primers, 500, 300, etc... Just a label.

For 9mm you need small pistol.
For 45 you need large pistol. Some of the newer 45 takes small pistol primer but it's rarer.
For 223 you need small rifle. Or you can buy AR specific primers. I just use their normal #400 for my AR, they work fine.

For lube I like Hornady's One Shot. Dillon also makes a spray lube. Don't but any lube that's not a spray like RCBS.


Some of your 223 cases may have crimped primer pockets. Google a photo of a crimped primer pocket. You can tell right away by looking if they're crimped.
If they are crimped and if you want to reload them you have to swage them first. That $30 RCBS swager works fine. Dillon makes a nicer one for $100.

If you load a lot of 223, you'll want a swager, because a lot of that brass is crimped.


You'll also need a trimmer for the 223 but you don't trim 9mm or 45acp.

Loading rifle is a lot more work than pistol. Another whole ball game. Not as much fun and way more tedious. I stopped loading for 223 and just buy it now. I do still load all my pistol rounds though.

Hope theis helps.