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  • m1a1driver
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 1031

    Bullseye & Unique in .45acp...

    I've been working up some loads using both powders with some 230gr LRN moly coated bullets, I've noticed that the unique loads produce a lot more leading in my barrel than the bullseye loads, is this typical for unique? The unique load was 5.3-5.4 grs and the bullseye was 4.1-4.2grs
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    XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    Unique is a lot slower than BE. If the powder doesn't have enough burn to cause the bullet to form to the barrel then gases will escape past the bullet causing leading.

    It's typical for faster powders to quickly burn causing the bullet to form to the barrel early on preventing leading. The slower burning Unique is not forcing the bullet to form to the barrel letting gases escape past the bullet and causing leading.
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    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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    • #3
      XDRoX
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 4420

      To fix your problem you can either try to up the Unique charge or buy larger diameter bullets.
      Chris
      <----Rimfire Addict


      Originally posted by Oceanbob
      Get a DILLON...

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      • #4
        m1a1driver
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 1031

        these bullets are of .452 I believe. I shall up the load and try again. Thanks!

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          ireload
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2589

          M1A1 keep in mind that Unique likes to be loaded mid to max level. Unique will give you a higher velocity.
          Last edited by ireload; 08-16-2012, 6:23 PM.

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            kurac
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 2917

            or try the Brear Creek hollow base 200gr round nose, they work great for me, but I am burning W231 just because it meters so nice.
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            • #7
              m1a1driver
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 1031

              thanks guys! I made a test batch using the next lee auto disc setting, 6.0grs of Unique. I'll test fire and see how they run.

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              • #8
                frt96
                Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 253

                6.0 grains unique 230grain plated.
                6.6 grains unique 200grain lead round nose flat points
                These are my go to loads with unique.
                I tried using less powder but the loads burned dirty and lead fouling was bad.
                YMMV

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                • #9
                  m1a1driver
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1031

                  Ok I tried out a new batch with progressively hotter loads and I got no high pressure signs up to and including max loads. However, the leading got WORSE with the unique as the powder charge was increased...So I guess the problem is with the bullets.

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                  • #10
                    Bill Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5028

                    I run 5grs of Bullseye in all my lead .45ACP loads (200gr LSWC-230gr LRN), works great. I think Bullseye and .45ACP were meant for each other.
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                    • #11
                      Flyin Brian
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                      • Oct 2009
                      • 3395

                      Originally posted by Bill Steele
                      I run 5grs of Bullseye in all my lead .45ACP loads (200gr LSWC-230gr LRN), works great. I think Bullseye and .45ACP were meant for each other.
                      ^^^^ exactly what I use too. I have been using that load exclusively for the last 3 years with no problems, using 200gr LSWC.
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                      • #12
                        Quinc
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                        • Jan 2010
                        • 3011

                        Originally posted by Bill Steele
                        I run 5grs of Bullseye in all my lead .45ACP loads (200gr LSWC-230gr LRN), works great. I think Bullseye and .45ACP were meant for each other.
                        Same load I use. But I only use 4.5gr of Bullseye.
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                        • #13
                          77bawls
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                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1457

                          I use 6 grains Bullseye with a 180 grain bullet. It works awesome.
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                          • #14
                            spamsucker
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                            • Jun 2012
                            • 701

                            Originally posted by kurac
                            or try the Brear Creek hollow base 200gr round nose, they work great for me, but I am burning W231 just because it meters so nice.
                            ^^^

                            I have them running at >1500fps with no leading with unique, bullseye, green dot, blue dot or longshot.

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                            • #15
                              TKM
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 10657

                              Originally posted by spamsucker
                              ^^^

                              I have them running at >1500fps with no leading with unique, bullseye, green dot, blue dot or longshot.
                              I'm curious what gun you are using that load in.

                              Since that is somewhat faster than 460 Rowland I suspect that you may have meant a different number somewhere.
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