Reloading equip

[kris smith]

I know this is probably asked a ton but what all do I need to start reloading I'm looking to start reloading .223 7.62x39 and possibly 7.62x 54r

[bruceflinch]

Start reading Grasshopper....

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=108907

[Colt562]

This too

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=158086

[XDRoX]

None of those calibers are worth reloading IMO except maybe 223. I don't even think 223 is worth reloading for plinking but a lot a guys would probably disagree with me. But those other two rounds are readily available for super cheap prices. Not to mention its not like you need super accurate rounds for AK's or Mosin Nagants. And the cheap Russian stuff shoots great.

I'd just hate for you to buy all the stuff to reload and then learn just how time consuming loading for a rifle is and then realize that it's just easier to buy ammo.

Don't get me wrong. I love to reload as much as I like to shoot. I reload for a ton of calibers and want others to enjoy reloading as much as me. But if those calibers are all you're looking to reload, I don't think you'll stick with it.

[Colt562]

None of those calibers are worth reloading IMO except maybe 223. I don't even think 223 is worth reloading for plinking but a lot a guys would probably disagree with me. But those other two rounds are readily available for super cheap prices. Not to mention its not like you need super accurate rounds for AK's or Mosin Nagants. And the cheap Russian stuff shoots great.

I'd just hate for you to buy all the stuff to reload and then learn just how time consuming loading for a rifle is and then realize that it's just easier to buy ammo.

Don't get me wrong. I love to reload as much as I like to shoot. I reload for a ton of calibers and want others to enjoy reloading as much as me. But if those calibers are all you're looking to reload, I don't think you'll stick with it.

I would agree with you, with the 223 if you are plinking no need to reload but if you want match grade reloading might be the way to go, if you really want to not spend much at all is the lee classic reloader, you don't need anything ut that 45 dollar set however I don't recommend using them

[kris smith]

I'm looking fr the others because some ranges don't allow steel ammo so I figure just reload the two Russian Amos with yugo and Winchester brass instead of buying new manufacture and my at only like brass cases ammo my mini eats any thing so the amount I like to shoot gets expensive

[lpspinner]

How many rounds were you thinking of reloading during a session?

[Colt562]

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/423081/lee-challenger-breech-lock-single-stage-press-anniversary-kit

or even if you want something smaller

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/650614/lee-breech-lock-hand-press-kit

[Cowboy T]

None of those calibers are worth reloading IMO except maybe 223. I don't even think 223 is worth reloading for plinking but a lot a guys would probably disagree with me. But those other two rounds are readily available for super cheap prices. Not to mention its not like you need super accurate rounds for AK's or Mosin Nagants. And the cheap Russian stuff shoots great.

I see your point, though it depends on what he wants to do with it.

AK's, yeah, I gotta agree with you. Cheap Russian ammo is definitely the way to go. However, for a CZ 527 bolt gun in 7.62x39, it might make more sense. Hickok45 did a review on this handy little rifle, and the thing can shoot. Also, some ranges don't allow the cheap steel Russian ammo. That means more $$ even for PMC, let alone American brands or Prvi Partizan.

Mosin-Nagants, though, it depends on the specific gun. My M91/30 will do just below MOA with Prvi Partizan JSP ammo. This rifle can shoot. A good handload would probably make this a 1/2 MOA gun in its current (bone-stock) condition. Nope, no bedding or anything else has been done to it yet.

For .223, again, it depends. If he's got a really precise firearm and wants to get top precision out of it, handloads are the way to go. But if he just wants some plinking/blasting ammo, or is doing closer-in "tactical" practice, then the cheap stuff is the order of the day as long as the range allows the steel stuff.

All that said....

Remember that we're talking about California. The Powers That Be got AB 962 into law once, and CA shooters were only saved by getting lucky enough to get a judge who actually respects the Constitution. That's not a guaranteed thing. The next AB 962--and rest assured there will be a next time--will be written to address that court challenge.

Therefore, I suggest that every CA shooter get at least a Classic Turret Press and start reloading. This is to ensure ammo availability at all times. Remember what Kevin de Leon said, without ammo, "you could pistol-whip someone". And Teddy Kennedy infamously said, "no ammo, no guns."

Thus, I think it's always worth it, even if it's for 9mm, to be set up to roll your own. Especially these days.

[CalTeacher]

If know how to source your components, .223 is totally worth it to reload. Get 8# jugs of wc844 and use wolf small rifle primers, scrounge brass and buy your bullets in bulk.

For Russian cartridges, just buy surplus.

[kris smith]

Well I do plan on scrounging cases and using cheap stuff to reload just for blastIng but there is a chance I'd want some super accurate hand loads some time

[Dark Mod]

For everyone espousing the cheap russian stuff: Where are you shooting it at? i have never been to a range that allows it, maybe the ranges outside of Socal are good with it?

I have heard that burro canyon allows it during the winter, kind of a bummer since your back to sqaure 1 the rest of the year

That leaves BLM, which means a 3 hour drive for most. If your lucky enough to live closer then i can definatley see why you would buy russian surplus. Otherwise you gotta load it yourself.

Have you seen the prices for non magnetic 7.62x54r? Cheapest i can find is $26 a box or so. Might as well be shooting .300 WinMag

[XDRoX]

For everyone espousing the cheap russian stuff: Where are you shooting it at? i have never been to a range that allows it, maybe the ranges outside of Socal are good with it?

I have heard that burro canyon allows it during the winter, kind of a bummer since your back to sqaure 1 the rest of the year

That leaves BLM, which means a 3 hour drive for most. If your lucky enough to live closer then i can definatley see why you would buy russian surplus. Otherwise you gotta load it yourself.

Have you seen the prices for non magnetic 7.62x54r? Cheapest i can find is $26 a box or so. Might as well be shooting .300 WinMag

I live 10 minutes east of downtown San Diego and the San Diego Bay.
I can get to BLM in 35 minutes from my house.
There is one outdoor range within 30 minutes from my house and 4 indoor ranges within 15 minutes from my house.

None of these ranges care what you shoot. I have never been asked and never heard of any rules on not shooting certain types of ammo. I'm always surprised when I hear guys talk about it on this forum.

[Dark Mod]

Looks like i need to move to San Diego. I live within 15 minutes of 5 or 6 indoor ranges, all of which prohibit steel jacketed ammo. Most Prohibit WOLF and Tula by name (even wolf gold...) and they have a magnet to check the rest of your ammo.

I live within an hour from 2 outdoor ranges, both of which prohibit steel ammo as well. Range officers actually walk the line and test your ammo with a magnet.

Nearest BLM land is 3 hours away too...

I just always assumed that was how the rest of the state was, The outdoor ranges say they do it to limit fires, but ive always had a nagging suspicion that the indoor ranges do it for monetary reasons.

[CalTeacher]

The range i go to doesn't care what you shoot and is only 30 minutes away.