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  • 11Z50
    Banned
    • Sep 2002
    • 1997

    Lead ammo ban

    I was talking with a friend and he was very upset about the Condor lead ammo ban. As he heard the story, one could no longer shoot a .22LR in most of the Central Valley effective July 1. This was certainly very disconcerting so I did some research. The idea here is the "bullet ridden" remains of varmints are left behind by shooters and the Condor, along with other animals are being poisoned by feeding on said remains.

    Sure enough, I found this page on the F&G site: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/condor/

    It appears that, indeed, one will no longer be allowed to hunt/shoot small game with a 22LR in most of the Central Valley. But, as in most PRK laws, there are exceptions.

    Since plinking and target shooting are not regulated by F&G, one may blast away with a 22LR so long as you are not hunting. It appears one may also shoot squirrels and other varmints with a .22 Mag, and I would assume a .17 HMR since they use jacketed bullets.

    Interestingly, Deer and Pig Hunters in the Sierras and the Coast Ranges adjacent to the southern Central Valley will only be allowed to use certain brands of ammo. Muzzle loaders will only be allowed sabots that contain jacketed bullets.

    Also exempted are upland game shotgunners. It's not mentioned, but I would assume trap and skeet shooters are also exempt.

    Looks like F&G also wants us to either dig the bullets out of our kills, and/or bury the remains. What's next? Maybe we should play taps as well.

    Whatever. Yet another PRK "feel good" law that costs taxpayers alot of money with little or no real effect.
    Last edited by 11Z50; 01-25-2008, 7:40 AM.
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    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44093

    Jacketed bullets that still contain lead and will be illegal to use!
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    • #3
      50BMGBOB
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      • Dec 2005
      • 1738

      Isn't the ban on Centerfire ammo? I don't hunt much but that's what I remember getting passed.
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      • #4
        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
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        BOB,
        They added rimfire after the law was passed.

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        • #5
          chris
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          • Apr 2006
          • 19452

          the DFG has recomended we bury the remains of the harvested animal for as long as i can remember. but the coyotes dig them up and they are gone in short order after that.
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          • #6
            jandmtv
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2007
            • 5800

            short answer... buy a reloading press, and load up some lead free bullets, like im doing now
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            • #7
              11Z50
              Banned
              • Sep 2002
              • 1997

              From what I read, target shooting and plinking are exempt. So are upland hunters. That means I can still shoot my guns out in my shooting spots, I just can't hunt or shoot ground squirrels...oh wait, I can shoot Jackrabbits...oh forget it! I'll let mr squirrel have a break until they come up with lead free 17HMR. Shouldn't be hard to do, there isn't much lead there to begin with.

              I guess I'll just quit hunting deer around here. I haven't been in a few years and don't miss it. If I get the urge to kill a buck, I'll use my bow, or spend my money in another state.

              I don't see anything about center-fire varmint calibers like .222,223/22-250. I'm guessing they'll have to be lead free as well. It seems to me the ammo manufacturers should be able to see the writing on the wall and go to a lead-free .22LR which would solve the problem here, and elsewhere as time goes by.While only about 1 in 100 rounds of .22LR are fired at anything alive, it seems it's just a matter of time until the Green folks start going after ranges and shooting spots as being toxic waste dumps.

              Of course this is all subject to the final decision of those geniuses at DFG. God help us......
              Last edited by 11Z50; 01-26-2008, 7:06 PM.

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              • #8
                JeffM
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 4359

                Squirrels and rabbits are my plinking targets. Vola! I'm exempt!

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