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  • socal147
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 1254

    45 ACP light load for 1911

    Went shooting today with some reloads:

    185 gn Plated Flat Nose / 5.2 gn of WST

    185 gn Plated Flat Nose / 8.0 gn Unique

    !85 gn Plated Flat Nose / 5.2 gn WST Heavy Crimp (Recoil Increase Noted)

    No cycle issues of any kind. Actually considering going lower on the charge. Anyone have some experience with even lighter loads?

    Thanks In Advance,
    Patrick
  • #2
    M1Kev
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 298

    I use:
    230 gn JHP match over 4.5 gn bullseye 1.20 OAL with medium crimp
    230 gn FMJ RN over 4.7 gn bullseye 1.20 OAL with medium crimp

    Both are using CCI large pistol primers.

    I have noticed that if I do not put a crimp on it, the rounds will not feed well and I get FTF issues about every 2-3 rounds where the bullet nose will stick on the feed ramp and get pushed back in the case.

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    • #3
      cindynles
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 2806

      200gr SWC (Berrys Plated) over 4.6gr W231 - OAL 1.23"
      230gr RN (Bear Creek Moly) over 4.7gr W231 -OAL 1.25"

      Both cycle my 5" 1911 with a standard 16lbs recoil spring
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      • #4
        socal147
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 1254

        Thanks. I had two that (would not feed at all) due to case damage that I caused during reloading. I did have some misfeeds and I was leaning towards the non crimp as the cause. Appreciate the info, Patrick.

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        • #5
          Low-Pressure
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1758

          TiteGroup 4.8gr with 200gr X-treme RN plated bullets. OAL 1.225"
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          • #6
            M1Kev
            Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 298

            No problem. I got the factory crimp die off of Midway for $7 (give or take). Took me all of 5 minutes to dial it in and crimp up 50 rnds for testing.

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            • #7
              1nickatnite1
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2011
              • 458

              230 gn over 3.7gn of clays and 1.25" oal. shoots soft and accurate
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              • #8
                CalTeacher
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 828

                Originally posted by 1nickatnite1
                230 gn over 3.7gn of clays and 1.25" oal. shoots soft and accurate
                This.

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                • #9
                  sd_fox_racer
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 582

                  Originally posted by 1nickatnite1
                  230 gn over 3.7gn of clays and 1.25" oal. shoots soft and accurate
                  x3 cycles my kimber custom II just fine
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                  • #10
                    sjg1966
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1047

                    Howdy...

                    I just shot some test loads over the weekend...

                    185gr Berrys FP over 5.8gr W231 through 6.3gr W231 OAL = 1.20
                    They all cycled through my P220 with a 18lb recoil spring (5.8 barely did) and all were decently accurate. I liked the 6.1gr W231 best.

                    I also tried (same bullet) 6.0gr and 6.2gr of Unique and those did not cycle the 18lb spring. So if I try Unique again I will start higher, but am thinking I might just stick with W231 for now and Unique for my 10mm.

                    All were lightly crimped with a Lee FCD.

                    Just thought I'd share....

                    Steve
                    Watch Astro steal brass and take it into his cage....
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4B_pd-yRWE&hd=1

                    Glock 20C at indoor range....
                    http://youtu.be/T4bP8DnhT9Q

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                    • #11
                      socal147
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1254

                      Thanks All. I loaded the following for testing. All pushing Rain 185 gn Fn bullets. Med crimp.

                      WST = 5.0 4.9 4.8

                      Unique = 7.9 7.8 7.7

                      Both were soft shooters at 5.2 and 8.0 respectively. Action was spot on. A few misfeeds due to no crimp. I figured I would go down slowly in charge until the action stopped working or became erratic. Should be interesting.

                      Patrick

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                      • #12
                        socal147
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1254

                        Originally posted by sjg1966

                        185gr Berrys FP

                        I also tried (same bullet) 6.0gr and 6.2gr of Unique and those did not cycle the 18lb spring.
                        4.1 WST was the lowest i could go. Very Soft shooter. Nice

                        Went down to 7.0 Unique. Still some room there. 6.9 to 6.3 getting loaded today. Good info ....Thanks

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                        • #13
                          JonM
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 36

                          Originally posted by 1nickatnite1
                          230 gn over 3.7gn of clays and 1.25" oal. shoots soft and accurate
                          I'm going to have to be number four to recommend this load. I shoot this exact load with 230grn bear creeks and it is so light it is amazing. If you are using an all steel government model and grip it tightly enough there is almost no muzzle rise at all. I also shoot 4.0 grains of Clays with Bear Creek's 200grn HBRN. 4.0 grn of Clay's works excellent with the 230grn as well and I actually prefer it generally because 3.7 grns almost feels like cheating- like shooting a nine millimeter or something.

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                          • #14
                            socal147
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1254

                            Thanks All

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                            • #15
                              sjg1966
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1047

                              Originally posted by socal147
                              Went down to 7.0 Unique. Still some room there. 6.9 to 6.3 getting loaded today. Good info ....Thanks
                              How did the Unique 6.3 to 6.9 work out?
                              Watch Astro steal brass and take it into his cage....
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4B_pd-yRWE&hd=1

                              Glock 20C at indoor range....
                              http://youtu.be/T4bP8DnhT9Q

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