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  • tangocharlie7
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 129

    40 s&w recipe using 180 gr bear creek

    Just bought a G22 and have 1k bear creek 180 gr LRN, wondering if you have some recipes you might like to share.

    I have Clays, Bullseye, Power Pistol and True Blue on hand for powder

    Thx!
    The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. [/SIZE]


    [SIZE="3"]Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
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    rhbanjo
    Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 336

    I thought I read somewhere that you can't use lead in a Glock barrel? Something about the rifling.?

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    • #3
      tangocharlie7
      Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 129

      Moly coated lead are fine. I've run 1k's through my G21sf no problem
      The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. [/SIZE]


      [SIZE="3"]Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

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      • #4
        CalTeacher
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 828

        Glocks will shoot lead just fine. Don't believe Internet myths to the contrary. I lIke 5.4 gr of Unique. With a 180gr cast bullet it runs about 950fps

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          tangocharlie7
          Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 129

          Ok Great. I don't have any Unique on hand but will reference this load later when I do
          Thx
          The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. [/SIZE]


          [SIZE="3"]Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

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          • #6
            Kappy
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2007
            • 5349

            I don't know about the moly thing, but I wouldn't reload lead in a Glock. It's questionable enough that I'd be worried. On the other hand, I suppose if you check the barrel enough...

            I've shot Bullseye in .40S&W, no problem. I started with lead (in my CZ75). I want to say I was shooting 4.5gr?
            Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

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            • #7
              CalTeacher
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 828

              Originally posted by Kappy
              I don't know about the moly thing, but I wouldn't reload lead in a Glock. It's questionable enough that I'd be worried. On the other hand, I suppose if you check the barrel enough...

              I've shot Bullseye in .40S&W, no problem. I started with lead (in my CZ75). I want to say I was shooting 4.5gr?

              Seriously, there's nothing wrong with shooting lead bullets in a stock goock barrel.

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              • #8
                Corbin Dallas
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                • May 2006
                • 6204

                Originally posted by Kappy
                I don't know about the moly thing, but I wouldn't reload lead in a Glock. It's questionable enough that I'd be worried. On the other hand, I suppose if you check the barrel enough...

                I've shot Bullseye in .40S&W, no problem. I started with lead (in my CZ75). I want to say I was shooting 4.5gr?
                Then don't comment. If you don't know how moly coated bullets affect the barrel, especially in a Glock, stop and wait for those of us who do know, comment to the OP.

                Nothing worse than being an internet armchair quarterback who has no idea what they are talking about.
                NRA Life Member and Certified Instructor: Pistol - Rifle - Shotgun - PPITH - PPOTH - NRA Certified RSO

                WTB the following - in San Diego
                --Steyr M357A1 357SIG
                --Five Seven IOM (round trigger guard)

                Never forget - השואה... לעולם לא עוד.

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                  Corbin Dallas
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                  • May 2006
                  • 6204

                  Originally posted by tangocharlie7
                  Just bought a G22 and have 1k bear creek 180 gr LRN, wondering if you have some recipes you might like to share.

                  I have Clays, Bullseye, Power Pistol and True Blue on hand for powder

                  Thx!
                  TC7 - I run around 5.4g of unique under my 180g BC's.
                  NRA Life Member and Certified Instructor: Pistol - Rifle - Shotgun - PPITH - PPOTH - NRA Certified RSO

                  WTB the following - in San Diego
                  --Steyr M357A1 357SIG
                  --Five Seven IOM (round trigger guard)

                  Never forget - השואה... לעולם לא עוד.

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                  • #10
                    Munk
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2124

                    disregard the myths about lead in a glock barrel. You're more likely to have issues when running lead too fast, than with the glock factory rifling.

                    That being said, I like the idea of using an aftermarket barrel for shooting glocks with reloads anyway. Tighter chamber leads to less brass stress, and longer brass life. You can also buy a barrel that's extended, or ported, or extended AND ported (fancy!).
                    Originally posted by greasemonkey
                    1911's instill fairy dust in the bullets, making them more deadly.

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                    • #11
                      OzzieF
                      Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 193

                      5.3 Win WSF , 1.135" 180 bear creek was my load for a while.
                      4.1 VV N320 , same as above
                      4.6 VV N340 , same as above

                      These loads all made 930-950 fps out of my 5" SVI.

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                      • #12
                        tangocharlie7
                        Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 129

                        Thx Corbin Dallas. You were a big help on my 45 acp loads as well. When I pick up the G22 I'm going to grab a few lbs of unique and try your load. You running oal around 1.115-1.120 range?
                        The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. [/SIZE]


                        [SIZE="3"]Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

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                        • #13
                          Corbin Dallas
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • May 2006
                          • 6204

                          Tango 1.125
                          NRA Life Member and Certified Instructor: Pistol - Rifle - Shotgun - PPITH - PPOTH - NRA Certified RSO

                          WTB the following - in San Diego
                          --Steyr M357A1 357SIG
                          --Five Seven IOM (round trigger guard)

                          Never forget - השואה... לעולם לא עוד.

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                          • #14
                            qtrxist
                            L4K
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                            • Jun 2009
                            • 607

                            Originally posted by OzzieF
                            5.3 Win WSF , 1.135" 180 bear creek was my load for a while.
                            4.1 VV N320 , same as above
                            4.6 VV N340 , same as above

                            These loads all made 930-950 fps out of my 5" SVI.
                            I bet that 4.1 load of 320 is very very soft! In my experience 320 and W231 is the same laod (NOT THE SAME POWDER). I use W231 4.1, will be rechronoing it. 6" Scheumann bushing non-AET.

                            Reece
                            Caesar salad

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                            • #15
                              rsrocket1
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 2768

                              These are loads in a 4.25" S&W M&P40 all seated at 1.135" COL
                              the velocities are my own measurements, YMMV

                              5.0g Bullseye 1000 fps my max load (25% margin) with this bullet/powder
                              4.7g Bullseye 950 fps good all around round
                              4.0g Bullseye for a light load, but a bit more dirty in terms of unburned powder 875 fps

                              7.0g Power Pistol 1060 fps. Max load (25% margin)
                              6.0g Power Pistol 960 fps, no need to go any lower as PP is only used for max loads.

                              Recently after taking up shotgun loading, I have 8 pounds of Clays and figured I could use some for light recoil pistol shooting.

                              2.5g Clays ridiculously low recoil. 1 stovepipe in 100 rounds, probably marginal in terms of reliablity

                              3.0g Clays. Excellent light load. Complete burn of the powder, no soot on cases (sufficient expansion of the brass to seal the chamber). Recoil somewhere between a light 30 special shot out of a heavy 357 Magnum pistol and a 22lr. Most of the gun movement seems to be the slide moving back and forth. Excellent for practicing trigger control on a long DA trigger pull gun.

                              If 3.0g Clays makes you nervous in terms of risking a stuck bullet, start at 3.3g and work down. I think you'll have issues with cycling well before you get down to the stuck bullet zone.

                              Clays will never generate the speeds of Unique, PP, Bullseye before reaching dangerous peak pressures, but it is an excellent clean powder for low recoil/low velocity loads as is Red Dot (2.8-3.0g)

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