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  • bballwizard05
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3323

    This thread was about a scale issue...FIGURED IT ALL OUT. Thanks for the responses

    I got a cheap digital scale (not a kitchen one), but a gram scale (also has gn's).

    So I'm trying to get to 46 grains, I used the "tare" function to cancel the weight of my collecting device (shot glass), and start zeroing in on 46 grains on my electric scale. Well I get multiple readings of 45-46, so I think "okay great now lets get it exact on the powder scale".

    I put it on the powder scale.... and it shows up as 55.9 grains!!! WTF. I know I must be doing something wrong, because I have witnessed another person use this electric scale, in conjunction with the lee powder measure and do it correctly. I'll call them when they get off work, but until then I'm frustrated.

    Here's the scale:

    Last edited by bballwizard05; 09-04-2012, 11:14 AM.
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    Cowboy T
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    • Mar 2010
    • 5706

    If either of those scales came with check weights, you can use those to verify your readings.
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    • #3
      bballwizard05
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      • Sep 2009
      • 3323

      And of course neither of them did! The digital scale is supposed to tell you if it is out of whack, and you can use a 500g weight to re-calibrate it... but I have no way of knowing what 500g is without a working scale And I do not have any weights that are labeled.

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      • #4
        bballwizard05
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3323

        stupid double post....

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        • #5
          troysland
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 2182

          Yes, might need to calibrate the scale with the calibration weight. My digital scale came with a 50 gram weight to calibrate with. Also, I would use the pan that came with the powder scale instead of a shot glass. Keep us posted.
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          • #6
            troysland
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 2182

            Oh, a dollar bill is exactly 1 gram. Useless info I picked up as a youth, till I started reloading.
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            • #7
              bandook
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 1220

              Try using something lighter than a shot glass - like the little powder tray thingie that came with the Lee scale.

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              • #8
                bandook
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 1220

                Originally posted by troysland
                Oh, a dollar bill is exactly 1 gram. Useless info I picked up as a youth, till I started reloading.
                Useless indeed.

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                • #9
                  bballwizard05
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3323

                  Ok, let me clear something up. I weighed with both a shot glass, and the powder tray.

                  I mentioned the shotglass because that is what I use to receive one "load" worth of powder from the hopper.

                  I did try weighing with the glass, and thought "hmm, maybe its too heavy, lets use the pan" So I then used the "tare" function to calibrate to the pan, poured one "loads" worth into the pan and tried that. They came out to the same number (so at least I know the TARE function is working).

                  I have to run to the hardware store right now, I'll see if they have any marked weights I can use, if not I will give the dollar bill a try. I don't need the electric scale to be exact, but being 10 grains off is NOT COOL.

                  Keep the ideas coming, I'll report back.

                  Thanks all

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                  • #10
                    Casual_Shooter
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                    • Sep 2006
                    • 11733

                    Try another scale to see if you can get two scales to read the same thing? Then you'd know which one wasn't accurate.
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                    • #11
                      5.56Geo
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1888

                      You can use a 55grain .223 bullet and see how close your digital scale is. Most bullets are +/- 0.1 grains or there out of spec.
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                      • #12
                        sjg1966
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 1047

                        Sounds like you lee safety scale isn't zeroed. I have the lee safety scale and a redding scale and zero them each loading session. The lee scale is as accurate as my redding. I just make sure I zero it each session. FWIW I have the $30~ Hornady scale and I prefer my balances scales over it.

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                        • #13
                          sjg1966
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 1047

                          Originally posted by 5.56Geo
                          You can use a 55grain .223 bullet and see how close your digital scale is. Most bullets are +/- 0.1 grains or there out of spec.
                          ^This. I would say that's the next best thing, using a bullet since they are usually +/- .1gr like 5.56geo said.

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                            bballwizard05
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                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3323

                            Originally posted by 5.56Geo
                            You can use a 55grain .223 bullet and see how close your digital scale is. Most bullets are +/- 0.1 grains or there out of spec.
                            This may come as a shock... but I don't shoot .223 (gasp! no AR!) haha. In fact I don't shoot anything other than 22 that fires a projectile less than 100gn...


                            @Casualshooter: good idea. I only have the 2 scales though, and I don't know which one is accurate. So without a weight that I know already how much it is, I can't determine which is accurate.

                            Grr, the saga continues.
                            Last edited by bballwizard05; 07-03-2012, 4:08 PM.

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                            • #15
                              bballwizard05
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3323

                              grr.... I just weighed a dollar on the digital scale. came out to 1.1g

                              guess my lee scale isn't calibrated correctly.

                              Here is what I did (following the "great" details of the lee instructions)

                              1. Ball on zero, 1/10 slide locked at 0.
                              2. Pan is empty, and hung.
                              3. Turned adjusting poise until pointer lines up with the zero indicator.


                              Here is a picture. The pointer and zero indicator were perfectly lined up right before the picture, I have a window open nearby and I think it moved it slightly. Does the setup look correct?


                              Last edited by bballwizard05; 07-21-2021, 7:16 AM.

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