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  • LexLuther
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 838

    Do you trust your life to Hornady Critical Defense?

    Do you trust your life to Hornady Critical Defense?
    Or some other rubber tip ammo?
    Thank goodness I tested it in my gun before trusting it. The rubber tip grabs in the magazine and won't feed. YIKES!!! Now I have 18 rounds of over priced crappy ammo. Nice idea, fantastic marketing, could get you dead...anyone else have this problem?
    "I love it, its my second ammendment but we with the gun was the only thing between those guys and the oven and they still can't know this theys too dumb and I seen the ovens. They dont know it but they cant take all the guns and if ever, push ever comes to shove we'll be back." - Don Burgett
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    Javi
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 4540

    Only had one box but they all fed easily. I really want to try "Critical Duty" in 9mm.
    Originally posted by d4v0s
    My girlfriend and i used froglube last night in a pinch and it works great.
    R.I.P. Thomas C.

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    • #3
      kemikalembalance
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 599

      what gun is it? I'm personal to hydra shock, but never had an issue with hornady.
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      and our leaders allow themselves to be spoon fed with foreign BS and have forgotten that the great majority of americans do not live in secluded gated comunities with private security 24/7 like they do, while the rest of us are subject to defending ourselves without Police escorts whenever we need it. they dont realize we are subject to different dangers than they are, and we must have and keep the right do defend ourselves!

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      • #4
        kemikalembalance
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 599

        Originally posted by Javi
        Only had one box but they all fed easily. I really want to try "Critical Duty" in 9mm.
        Isn't it the same thing without the poly tip?
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        and our leaders allow themselves to be spoon fed with foreign BS and have forgotten that the great majority of americans do not live in secluded gated comunities with private security 24/7 like they do, while the rest of us are subject to defending ourselves without Police escorts whenever we need it. they dont realize we are subject to different dangers than they are, and we must have and keep the right do defend ourselves!

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        • #5
          paul0660
          In Memoriam
          • Jul 2007
          • 15669

          Originally posted by LexLuther
          Do you trust your life to Hornady Critical Defense?
          Or some other rubber tip ammo?
          Thank goodness I tested it in my gun before trusting it. The rubber tip grabs in the magazine and won't feed. YIKES!!! Now I have 18 rounds of over priced crappy ammo. Nice idea, fantastic marketing, could get you dead...anyone else have this problem?
          What gun? I like some flavors of Hornady because they are smalled diameter tips and solve some feed ramp issues. I am not familiar with the rubber tips.
          *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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          • #6
            Javi
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 4540

            Originally posted by kemikalembalance
            Isn't it the same thing without the poly tip?
            No, it's poly tip. It's 135 grains instead of 115 and is more of a 'full power load'. I believe it acts like a bonded bullet as well even though it's not.

            Originally posted by d4v0s
            My girlfriend and i used froglube last night in a pinch and it works great.
            R.I.P. Thomas C.

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            • #7
              NokSuCow
              Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 253

              I tested the Hornady Critical Defense rounds in my G17 without issue. Approx 30 rounds...tested each magazine to capacity.

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              • #8
                gschoelles
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 669

                Works great in all my guns, but good on you for finding the problem in yours early. What gun do you have for future reference.


                Originally posted by LexLuther
                Do you trust your life to Hornady Critical Defense?
                Or some other rubber tip ammo?
                Thank goodness I tested it in my gun before trusting it. The rubber tip grabs in the magazine and won't feed. YIKES!!! Now I have 18 rounds of over priced crappy ammo. Nice idea, fantastic marketing, could get you dead...anyone else have this problem?
                CRPA and NRA Life member
                GLOCK Armorer, Remington 870 Armorer, Mossberg 5xx Armorer, 1911 Armorer, M16/AR15 Armorer, Tactical First Aid Primary Responder
                NRA Range Safety Officer, Certified Pistol, Shotgun and Rifle Instructor

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                • #9
                  LexLuther
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 838

                  I dont think the what gun question is relevant. If the rubber tip can touch the front edge of the mag, they seem to grab. Maybe it's an oal issue, but I think it could be the same in any gun if the tip touches the mag.
                  "I love it, its my second ammendment but we with the gun was the only thing between those guys and the oven and they still can't know this theys too dumb and I seen the ovens. They dont know it but they cant take all the guns and if ever, push ever comes to shove we'll be back." - Don Burgett

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                  • #10
                    Munk
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2124

                    Originally posted by LexLuther
                    I dont think the what gun question is relevant. If the rubber tip can touch the front edge of the mag, they seem to grab. Maybe it's an oal issue, but I think it could be the same in any gun if the tip touches the mag.
                    Gun and mag manufacturer are relevant to this, so that people can tell you if it's a manufacturer fault in the ammo, the mags, or if you're using a caliber the gun wasn't originally built for that can't handle the OAL, while other guns can handle it.

                    Just having the tip rub isn't an issue if there's enough play in the mag for them to move back and forth a little. If the mag has an odd seam that restricts your maximum cartridge length, then maybe it's time to switch to (or from) factory mags to something smoother.

                    There are more issues here that need to be hashed out for your warning to look like anything other than a guerrilla negative PR campaign. Your post and not providing further info reeks of that garbage like "9mm WON'T SAVE YOU" advertisements.

                    Requested info:
                    -Gun make/model/cal.
                    -Magazine make/model
                    -modifications made to barrel/feedramp/magfeedlips/magsprings/magfollower/mag finish
                    -have you ever cleaned the inside of your mags or refinished them
                    -age of magazines and/or their springs.

                    Optional info:
                    - OAL measurements of the Hornady ammo in question (if you have the calipers or micrometer to do this)
                    - OAL of ammo you are using instead or that feeds well in your gun.
                    - Store you bought the Hornady CD from.
                    Originally posted by greasemonkey
                    1911's instill fairy dust in the bullets, making them more deadly.

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                    • #11
                      paul0660
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 15669

                      Originally posted by LexLuther
                      I dont think the what gun question is relevant. If the rubber tip can touch the front edge of the mag, they seem to grab. Maybe it's an oal issue, but I think it could be the same in any gun if the tip touches the mag.
                      Ok, have a secret. I have a few too.
                      *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                      • #12
                        GREASY357
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1684

                        Originally posted by Javi
                        Only had one box but they all fed easily. I really want to try "Critical Duty" in 9mm.
                        i was also looking into critical duty (in 40) but changed my mind because it seemed to not do as well as critical defense in gel with a few layers of denim. what i read was that it doesn't have "soft" lead bond so that it can go through barriers easily and hit the target behind. also something (being in kalifornia and all) if you had to go to court for defending yourself they might look at you like some vigilante with critical DUTY rather than critical defense. plausible here i say
                        War is mostly waiting.

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                        • #13
                          ireload
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2589

                          I would trust it if it feeds with no issue with my guns. But then again I've shot Hornardy XTPs for a while now so the answer would be yes. Both have are the same profile. It's good that you have found out ahead that the particular brand/make you have choosen does not feed in your pistol. It's good to buy several different types and do a cycle test.
                          Last edited by ireload; 06-28-2012, 2:51 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Socalman
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1339

                            Failure to feed is the reason that is so often given for being SURE the ammo you choose for self defense will work. I have read some pundits who say you should shoot at least 100 - 200 rounds to know that your chosen round will feed.

                            My choice in the 9mm is Remington Golden Saber. I have not had trouble with any of those. My .357 is loaded with RGS too, though I bought a few boxes of Hornady Critical Defense. Of course with a revolver you do not have the failure to feed problem.

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                            • #15
                              JSolie
                              Senior Member
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2252

                              Originally posted by LexLuther
                              Do you trust your life to Hornady Critical Defense?
                              Or some other rubber tip ammo?
                              Thank goodness I tested it in my gun before trusting it. The rubber tip grabs in the magazine and won't feed. YIKES!!! Now I have 18 rounds of over priced crappy ammo. Nice idea, fantastic marketing, could get you dead...anyone else have this problem?
                              Originally posted by LexLuther
                              I dont think the what gun question is relevant. If the rubber tip can touch the front edge of the mag, they seem to grab. Maybe it's an oal issue, but I think it could be the same in any gun if the tip touches the mag.
                              I'm curious what caliber you're having problems with. I've run a box of .45 through my 1911 using different magazines and it didn't have any problem with it.

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