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  • sofbak
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2628

    ?? on OAL tolerance

    I'm setting up to reload my first .45 LC cartridges, and looking at the Lee manual. COAL for my loads is given as "1.600", but no tolerance in either direction.

    I can get a +/- .0005 reading just by the way I hold the calipers on the cartrigde, so what would be an acceptable tolerance to that OAL, and would it be better to keep the tolerance band larger than than the stated length?

    I've run a few dummy rounds through the dies, and they are producing lenghts from 1.600 to 1.6015, is that close enough?

    TIA
    Tire kickers gonna kick,
    Nose pickers gonna pick
    I and others know the real
  • #2
    AJD
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 575

    I doubt your caliper could accurately measure the difference to .0001. Measuring to .001 with a caliper is pushing it. The tolerance you're indicating is insignificant.

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    • #3
      joelogic
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2008
      • 6593

      Even +/- .01" would be insignificant
      Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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      • #4
        M27
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 871

        I load all of my pistol ammo to +/- .001 for anything that I can use a flat seating die for. Anything with a round nose +\- .003 is pretty good because round bullets are not all shaped the same so they hit the die differently causing for inconsistency.
        I will share my opinion and my load data, BUT I am just a guy with too many cigars and too many guns. Whatever I say is probably wrong.

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        • #5
          scotty99
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 1184

          OALs listed in reloading manuals are generally MAX lengths. If you use a +0 -.010 tolerance you should be GTG for just about any pistol cartridge.

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          • #6
            mjmagee67
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 2771

            I shoot for +/- .003 for low volume pistol cases and +/- .005 for higher volume cases. .010 seems like a pretty large tolerance for a pistol, that could put some of my pet loads over the max COL and push me into feeding issues. YMMV as with all things in life.
            If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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            • #7
              Whiterabbit
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2010
              • 7586

              Originally posted by sofbak
              I'm setting up to reload my first .45 LC cartridges, and looking at the Lee manual. COAL for my loads is given as "1.600", but no tolerance in either direction.

              I can get a +/- .0005 reading just by the way I hold the calipers on the cartrigde, so what would be an acceptable tolerance to that OAL, and would it be better to keep the tolerance band larger than than the stated length?

              I've run a few dummy rounds through the dies, and they are producing lenghts from 1.600 to 1.6015, is that close enough?

              TIA
              You're scrutinizing a whale with a magnifying glass. Yes, it's close enough.

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              • #8
                Fjold
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Oct 2005
                • 22908

                OAL on revolver cartridges is like the bust size on a senior citizen, it really doesn't matter.


                If the cartridge fits in the cylinder it's good enough.
                Frank

                One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                • #9
                  22popnsplat
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1042

                  This is just my opinion but I see some pretty sloppy information given out at times .
                  It really comes down to what bullet you are using , Cast lead bullets tend to not be as consistant as jacketed . I like to see +/- .003 on my cast loads and crimp in in a seperate step for best oal and crimp consistancy . With a book load of 1.600 anything greater than -.010 at a warm charge or greater gets pulled , as you seat the bullet deaper it raises pressure. I go by what ever the smallest reading is i can get with my .001 calipers as the accepted reading .
                  I started out reloading with the 45 colt and is still one of my favorites , I have a couple of Rugers in 45 colt and the Ruger only load of a 255swc with winchester 231 has been my go to plinker for alot of years.
                  Last edited by 22popnsplat; 06-28-2012, 8:10 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Whiterabbit
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 7586

                    Lets remember there is a difference between blindly following the book without understanding why, and allowing larger than NASA grade tolerance because we understand what it means for real world, real life, real load safety and performance.

                    One man's sloppy is another man's uneducated (or unwilling to communicate his education!)

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                    Edit: Don't let ME be the person who snobbily tells someone else they SHOULDN'T reload to NASA level tolerances in the name of knowing what said tolerances actually do (rather than what the book implies but does not state), by all means, load to .0005" spec!

                    But know that it might not amount to very much on the shooting bench in this case!
                    Last edited by Whiterabbit; 06-28-2012, 9:36 PM.

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