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  • darksands
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 710

    Shooting my first reloads.

    .308 Win
    175Gr SMK
    43.5Gr Varget
    Federal Match Brass
    2.85 COL

    Remington 700 5R

    Closing the bolt had some resistance so the next batch I am going to go 2.80 COL to see if that helps.

    100 yards. I know the rifle can shoot much better groups but I still need to practice.


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  • #2
    huckberry668
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 1502

    That's some good shooting. 43.5 Varget is a good load for SMK175s. My A3G shoots real well with it too. I used Lapua grass and Wolf primer. Velocity was about 2690fps. what did you get?
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    • #3
      darksands
      Senior Member
      • May 2008
      • 710

      I dont have a chrono so I have no idea on velocities. There was a couple guys out there with one and I was about to ask if I can shoot a few to see but they were packing up already.

      I was using CCI 200. I couldn't find any BR2 which I was originally planning to use but after reading a few threads it seems like there was little difference between the BR2 and the 200 aside from the BR2 having a harder cup.
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      "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." ---George Orwell on a BBC broadcast, April 4, 1942

      "Fast is fine. Accuracy is final. You need to learn to shoot slow, real fast." ---Wyatt Earp

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      • #4
        lpspinner
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1164

        Congrats! Nice shooting.
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        • #5
          Javi
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 4540

          Hope my first batch goes as well as yours Good job.
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          • #6
            Antihero47
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 1312

            If the bolt is meeting resistance its not the over all length of the brass or the COAL with brass seated usually. Its the amount that you have sized the shoulder. If you are meeting a lot of resistance that means you need to push your resizer die down a smidge. You should be able to close the bolt with your thumb and forefinger and only meet resistance on the last inch of closing the bolt downwards. If you have to get on top of the rifle or muscle it then its too much.

            If you're going for accuracy, usually you want to size brass so that you meet slight resistance when closing the bolt. Just VERY slight, this ensures that the cartridge has perfect headspace for THAT rifles chamber however it may not be sized enough to close the bolt on a different rifle, keep that in mind. It also keeps brass stretching down and fire forms the cartridges to your chamber for the next reloads. All good things for accuracy.

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            • #7
              Turo
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2009
              • 5066

              I was nervous as hell shooting my first reloads, missed the target completely. Glad yours worked out well.

              Btw, most people won't let you shoot through their chrony, and of you do, you should have enough cash in your pocket to buy a new one for them then and there in case you hit it. I learned my lesson on that with my first one, got a 9mm hole right through the first sensor.
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              • #8
                darksands
                Senior Member
                • May 2008
                • 710

                Originally posted by Antihero47
                If the bolt is meeting resistance its not the over all length of the brass or the COAL with brass seated usually. Its the amount that you have sized the shoulder. If you are meeting a lot of resistance that means you need to push your resizer die down a smidge. You should be able to close the bolt with your thumb and forefinger and only meet resistance on the last inch of closing the bolt downwards. If you have to get on top of the rifle or muscle it then its too much.

                If you're going for accuracy, usually you want to size brass so that you meet slight resistance when closing the bolt. Just VERY slight, this ensures that the cartridge has perfect headspace for THAT rifles chamber however it may not be sized enough to close the bolt on a different rifle, keep that in mind. It also keeps brass stretching down and fire forms the cartridges to your chamber for the next reloads. All good things for accuracy.
                Thank you very much. I adjusted the resizer per RCBS instructions but I will try to push the resizer down a little more. I can see what you are talking about when I look at the brass after resizing. I was able to close the bolt with my thumb and forefinger with slight resistance but never had to muscle it. If it requires muscling I will just not use the round. Again, thank you for the information.
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                "Fast is fine. Accuracy is final. You need to learn to shoot slow, real fast." ---Wyatt Earp

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                • #9
                  huckberry668
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1502

                  You can shoot thru my chrony if we ever bump into each other.
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                  • #10
                    Darklyte27
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2008
                    • 9372

                    Thus and try the brass itself incthe chamber before loading it. Lucky it didnt hlow up on ya.
                    Nice group though
                    Originally posted by Antihero47
                    If the bolt is meeting resistance its not the over all length of the brass or the COAL with brass seated usually. Its the amount that you have sized the shoulder. If you are meeting a lot of resistance that means you need to push your resizer die down a smidge. You should be able to close the bolt with your thumb and forefinger and only meet resistance on the last inch of closing the bolt downwards. If you have to get on top of the rifle or muscle it then its too much.

                    If you're going for accuracy, usually you want to size brass so that you meet slight resistance when closing the bolt. Just VERY slight, this ensures that the cartridge has perfect headspace for THAT rifles chamber however it may not be sized enough to close the bolt on a different rifle, keep that in mind. It also keeps brass stretching down and fire forms the cartridges to your chamber for the next reloads. All good things for accuracy.
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                    • #11
                      darksands
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 710

                      Originally posted by huckberry668
                      You can shoot thru my chrony if we ever bump into each other.
                      Thank you. I will make sure to let you know when I plan to head up to Burro again to see if you will be there or not. Much appreciated.

                      Originally posted by Darklyte27
                      Thus and try the brass itself incthe chamber before loading it. Lucky it didnt hlow up on ya.
                      Nice group though
                      I will try loading just the cartridge in the chamber before loading. Thanks. All the ammo I shot I was able to fully close the bolt with slight resistance. If there was any major resistance I would not even try.
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                      "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." ---George Orwell on a BBC broadcast, April 4, 1942

                      "Fast is fine. Accuracy is final. You need to learn to shoot slow, real fast." ---Wyatt Earp

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                      • #12
                        huckberry668
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 1502

                        I'll be at Burros next Monday from noon to 4pm. I'll be at one of the private ranges. PM me for contact info.
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                        • #13
                          Darklyte27
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2008
                          • 9372

                          I was responding with my phone, but usually the trick is, with your fired brass, closing the chamber is a bit hard, so you use that brass and resize it not enough, and try it in your chamber, if its still hard to close you lower your sizing die just a hair until its closing with just that bit of resistance. If you know this already then you are good to go.

                          Also if you get a RCBS Precision Mic. you can see just how long your chamber is with the fired brass and see where your barrels lands and groves start so you know how deep to seat your bullets.

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                          • #14
                            darksands
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 710

                            The precision mic is something I will invest in. I need to get some more equipment like another shell holder. Its been kinda annoying having to swap shell holders between the press and hand primer. Also need to get a bullet puller.
                            All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

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                            "Fast is fine. Accuracy is final. You need to learn to shoot slow, real fast." ---Wyatt Earp

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                            • #15
                              Darklyte27
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2008
                              • 9372

                              what are you loading with?
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