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  • daves100
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 943

    gun powder

    awhile ago i asking how much powder you can store in your home.CRPA sent out a CA gun law summary book state law limits are 5 lbs of black powder and 20lbs of smokeless

    small arms primmers and loaded ammunition are not regulated. Also they said they are pushing for a shall issue for CCW
  • #2
    Gunsrruss
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1488

    Shall Issue

    I wish them luck on the "Shall Issue" As for me I'm a tad bit over the 20lbs
    I won't be wronged
    I won't be insulted
    And I won't be laid a hand on.
    I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.....John Wayne

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    • #3
      Kiba
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 757

      I believe you can have up to 50lbs total of smokeless powder but it must be stored in minimum 1" thick walled wooden boxes with no more than 20 lbs per box.

      I need to dig up the exact regulation, but that is what I recall digging up last year.

      Also don't forget that some homeowners policies have stricter-than-state restrictions on how much ammo/powder/primers you can keep.
      Last edited by Kiba; 01-16-2008, 10:01 PM.

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      • #4
        Roccobro
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 2907

        Isn't the regulations also for "inside the house". You can keep even more in the garage, and in the shed, in the barn, and in the ground...

        It could just be wishful thinking. Please post the regs if/when you find them Kiba.

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        • #5
          metalhead357
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2006
          • 5546

          CRPA....

          yeah. And they'd have you believe they did the OLL, saved everyone in Katrina, and are tantimount to helping in the DC case.....

          Dont believe ANY of thier junk; if you do...I've got a bridge to sell you for cheap
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
          I am not a number! I am a free man

          1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
          2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
          3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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          • #6
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44093

            I believe that there is a 20 or 25K limit on primers.
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            • #7
              dustoff31
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2007
              • 8209

              You need to check your local ordinances. Many cities/counties have adopted the National Fire Code (NFPA). For those that do follow the NFPA, here are the rules on smokeless powder:

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              I seem to remember something saying a maximum of 10K primers in a residential setting, but I can't lay hands on it, if I do find it, I'll post it.
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              • #8
                Kiba
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 757

                Found it.

                Excerpt from the California Fire Code:

                3306.4.1 Black powder and smokeless propellants. Propellants for personal use in quantities not exceeding 20 pounds (9 kg) of black powder or 20 pounds (9 kg) of smokeless powder shall be stored in original containers in occupancies limited to Group R-3. Smokeless powder in quantities exceeding 20 pounds (9 kg) but not exceeding 50 pounds (23 kg) kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls of at least 1 inch (25 mm) nominal thickness shall be allowed to be stored in occupancies limited to Group R-3. Quantities exceeding these amounts shall not be stored in any Group R occupancy.

                3306.4.2 Small arms primers. No more than 10,000 small arms primers shall be stored in occupancies limited to Group R-3.


                The above applies to residences, there are additional sections for commercial display/sale and the larger quantities associated with that. However, while looking on google I have found that some municipalities have additional restrictions beyond the state CFC.
                Last edited by Kiba; 01-17-2008, 10:48 PM.

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                • #9
                  Roccobro
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 2907

                  Thanks for the CFC info Kiba. I'm going to go hunt my county's regulations now...

                  Justin
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                  Thanks,
                  Justin
                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  Sometimes, arguing just for the sake of arguing, can be fun.
                  Originally posted by DannyZRC
                  no it can't!
                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  YES IT CAN!
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                  • #10
                    Hunter
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1759

                    Actually, the one that matters the most for us in CA is the Health and Safety code. It states a permit is required from the Fire Marshall but then gives an exemption for private use, if one has no more than 1lb Black powder or 20lbs of Smokeless powder. The Fire Code noted above is the maximum one can have with a permit in a residential structure.

                    12102. This chapter does not apply to any possession or use of 20
                    pounds or less of smokeless powder, or one pound or less of black
                    sporting powder, provided that:
                    (a) Smokeless powder is intended only for hand loading of small
                    arms ammunition of .75 caliber or less.
                    (b) Black sporting powder is intended for loading of small arms or
                    small arms ammunition of .75 caliber or less.
                    (c) All such powder is for private use and not for resale, and, in
                    the case of black sporting powder, there shall be no gift, delivery,
                    or other disposition to another person.
                    (d) The storage, use and handling of such smokeless and black
                    powder conforms to rules, regulations, or ordinances of authorities
                    having jurisdiction for fire prevention and suppression in the area
                    of such storage, use, and handling of such explosives.
                    Last edited by Hunter; 01-18-2008, 3:12 PM.

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                    • #11
                      FreedomIsNotFree
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 3657

                      There are a multitude of laws regarding black powder, smokeless powder and primers. Not only for your home or business, but also regarding transportation on the roads..etc..etc. It pays to educate yourself to these. There are more than I care to list here, so, I will provide the link to the California Code of Regulations.



                      Click on "search" on the upper right, then click on "search for words" on the upper left. In the search field type in "smokeless". It will take you to the proper sections. Most of the regs are within Title 8 and Title 19.
                      Last edited by FreedomIsNotFree; 01-24-2008, 12:18 AM.
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