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  • blacklisted
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2608

    Chrono Data Request (20" AR)

    Does anyone have any chrono data for comparable loads to the ones below, fired from a 20" AR?

    69gr. HPBT from 23.5 to 26.0 grains Varget
    55gr. FMJ from 25.5 to 27.5 grain Varget

    I would like to compare other people's results with mine, because some of my velocities seem a bit high. The only pressure sign encountered were some ejector marks with the max load of 27.5 grains Varget. The velocities that I encountered with that load were unexpected, and show why careful load development is necessary. My rifle functioned flawlessly with all loads.

    All loads used CCI #41 primers. FMJ Loads used mixed military brass (LC, RORG, and a few WCC), and the MatchKing loads were all in recent (05-06) Lake City brass. Chronograph (Shooting Chrony Beta Master) was approximately 10 feet from the muzzle.

    I also fired one 10 round string of 1992 production Radway Green SS109 for a source of comparison.

    Data begins:

    -----1992 Radway Green SS109-----

    Velocity (fps):
    Shot 01 3069 (first shot of the day)
    Shot 02 3143
    Shot 03 3106
    Shot 04 3103
    Shot 05 3137
    Shot 06 3135
    Shot 07 3123
    Shot 08 3100
    Shot 09 3103
    Shot 10 3140

    High Velocity 3143
    Low Velocity 3069
    Average Velocity 3116
    Extreme Spread 74
    Standard Deviation 23.71

    -----69gr. HPBT**Maximum Load**

    Velocity (fps):
    Shot 01 3011
    Shot 02 3039
    Shot 03 3016
    Shot 04 3011
    Shot 05 2994
    Shot 06 2986
    Shot 07 3032
    Shot 08 3024
    Shot 09 2993
    Shot 10 n/a

    High Velocity 3039
    Low Velocity 2986
    Average Velocity 3012
    Extreme Spread 53
    Standard Deviation 18.21

    -----55gr. FMJ**Maximum Load**

    Velocity (fps):
    Shot 01 3342
    Shot 02 3314
    Shot 03 3315
    Shot 04 3310
    Shot 05 3250
    Shot 06 3320
    Shot 07 3286
    Shot 08 3332
    Shot 09 3284
    Shot 10 3346

    High Velocity 3346
    Low Velocity 3250
    Average Velocity 3310
    Extreme Spread 96
    Standard Deviation 29.43

    -----
    Last edited by blacklisted; 01-17-2008, 12:02 PM.
  • #2
    blacklisted
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2608

    I will also include some .45-70 data that I collected. The following strings were fired from a Marlin Model 1895 with 22" 1:20 twist barrel:

    Caliber .45-70 Government
    Bullet Remington 300gr. JHP
    Powder 48.0gr. Alliant Reloder 7
    Primer FED #210
    Case Starline
    Case Length 2.095”
    Overall Length 2.540”
    Production Date 12/26/07

    Velocity (fps):
    Shot 01 1894
    Shot 02 1918
    Shot 03 1971
    Shot 04 1953
    Shot 05 1948
    Shot 06 1918
    Shot 07 1982
    Shot 08 1980
    Shot 09 1939
    Shot 10 2010

    High Velocity 2010
    Low Velocity 1894
    Average Velocity 1951
    Extreme Spread 116
    Standard Deviation 35.38

    -----

    Caliber .45-70 Government
    Bullet Remington 300gr. JHP
    Powder 48.5gr. Alliant Reloder 7
    Primer FED #210
    Case Starline
    Case Length 2.095”
    Overall Length 2.540”
    Production Date 12/26/07

    Velocity (fps):
    Shot 01 1946
    Shot 02 1948
    Shot 03 1941
    Shot 04 1967
    Shot 05 1976
    Shot 06 1951
    Shot 07 1960
    Shot 08 2006
    Shot 09 1974
    Shot 10 1967

    High Velocity 2006
    Low Velocity 1941
    Average Velocity 1964
    Extreme Spread 65
    Standard Deviation 19.2

    -----

    Caliber .45-70 Government
    Bullet Remington 300gr. JHP
    Powder 49.0gr. Alliant Reloder 7
    Primer FED #210
    Case Starline
    Case Length 2.095”
    Overall Length 2.540”
    Production Date 12/26/07

    Velocity (fps):
    Shot 01 1937
    Shot 02 1949
    Shot 03 1970
    Shot 04 2002
    Shot 05 1952
    Shot 06 1976
    Shot 07 1983
    Shot 08 1984
    Shot 09 1955
    Shot 10 1955

    High Velocity 2002
    Low Velocity 1937
    Average Velocity 1966
    Extreme Spread 65
    Standard Deviation 19.98

    -----

    Specifications:
    Caliber .45-70 Government
    Bullet Remington 300gr. JHP
    Powder 49.5gr. Alliant Reloder 7
    Primer FED #210
    Case Starline
    Case Length 2.095”
    Overall Length 2.540”
    Production Date 12/26/07

    Velocity (fps):
    Shot 01 1970
    Shot 02 2005
    Shot 03 1978
    Shot 04 2005
    Shot 05 1956
    Shot 06 1987
    Shot 07 1978
    Shot 08 1966
    Shot 09 1948
    Shot 10 1996

    High Velocity 2005
    Low Velocity 1948
    Average Velocity 1979
    Extreme Spread 57
    Standard Deviation 19.57

    -----

    Caliber .45-70 Government
    Bullet Remington 300gr. JHP
    Powder 50.0gr. Alliant Reloder 7
    Primer FED #210
    Case Starline
    Case Length 2.095”
    Overall Length 2.540”
    Production Date 12/26/07

    Velocity (fps):
    Shot 01 2023
    Shot 02 2032
    Shot 03 2033
    Shot 04 2018
    Shot 05 2007
    Shot 06 1982
    Shot 07 2017
    Shot 08 1998
    Shot 09 2006
    Shot 10 2016

    High Velocity 2033
    Low Velocity 1982
    Average Velocity 2013
    Extreme Spread 51
    Standard Deviation 15.57

    -----

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    • #3
      6079Winston
      Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 368

      The average velocity of 25.0 gr Varget with the 69 gr HPBT seems in line with the data on www.njhighpower.com, although the extreme spread appears high, possibly due to mixed lots of brass of different capacity and weight? It might also be some other inconsistency in cartridge headspace, neck tension, priming or the countless other variables in reloading. The .45-70 data looks more consistent, with lower extreme spreads decreasing as charge weight increases.

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      • #4
        blacklisted
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 2608

        End of week bump.

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