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  • kid386
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 93

    3in shells in Birdshot

    Just curious if this exist.

    I would like to shoot 3inch shells 1 1/8oz shot number 7.5, 8, and/or 9.

    Does this exist? If so please send me in the correct direction.

    Thank you in advance.
  • #2
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57136

    Shopping for the Top Gun, 12 Gauge, 7.5 Shot, 2-3/4 in, 1 1/8 oz, 1200 fps - Learn more about the latest Top Gun and other hunting or shooting gear at Federal Ammunition.

    Shopping for the Top Gun, 12 Gauge, 8 Shot, 2-3/4 in, 1 1/8 oz, 1145 fps - Learn more about the latest Top Gun and other hunting or shooting gear at Federal Ammunition.

    All of your firearm needs from reloading supplies, ammo, shotgun shells, handguns, revolvers, rifles, shotguns, magazines, and much more.


    1-1/8oz of lead shot fits in 2-3/4" shells so I think you will find that there is little reason to load 1-1/8oz in longer shells unless you are talking about steel shot.

    You can even get 1-1/4oz of lead shot into 2-3/4" shells:
    https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/250rds-12-gauge-fiocchi-optima-specific-hv-2-34-1-14oz-8-shot-ammo
    https://www.sgogunsandammo.com/product-p/tghv3675.htm


    Here is a 1-1/2oz load in 2-3/4" shells:


    And you certainly would not want steel shot in any of those 7.5-9 shot for hunting.
    You have to go to larger shot size when you switch to steel shot to keep the same pellet energy with steel for killing birds.
    Last edited by ar15barrels; 03-10-2025, 9:44 AM.
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    • #3
      kid386
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 93

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      https://www.federalpremium.com/shots...-TG12+7.5.html
      Shopping for the Top Gun, 12 Gauge, 8 Shot, 2-3/4 in, 1 1/8 oz, 1145 fps - Learn more about the latest Top Gun and other hunting or shooting gear at Federal Ammunition.

      All of your firearm needs from reloading supplies, ammo, shotgun shells, handguns, revolvers, rifles, shotguns, magazines, and much more.


      1-1/8oz of lead shot fits in 2-3/4" shells so I think you will find that there is little reason to load 1-1/8oz in longer shells unless you are talking about steel shot.

      You can even get 1-1/4oz of lead shot into 2-3/4" shells:
      https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/250rds-12-gauge-fiocchi-optima-specific-hv-2-34-1-14oz-8-shot-ammo
      https://www.sgogunsandammo.com/product-p/tghv3675.htm


      Here is a 1-1/2oz load in 2-3/4" shells:


      And you certainly would not want steel shot in any of those 7.5-9 shot for hunting.
      You have to go to larger shot size when you switch to steel shot to keep the same pellet energy with steel for killing birds.
      Specifically looking for 3 inch shells that I can shoot at a local skeet filed (thus 7.5/8/9 shot). I have a semi that only takes 3 inch shells. Was hoping i can break it in with some 3 inch shells and than feed 2 3/4 in it.

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      • #4
        foxtrotuniformlima
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 3457

        Originally posted by kid386

        Specifically looking for 3 inch shells that I can shoot at a local skeet filed (thus 7.5/8/9 shot). I have a semi that only takes 3 inch shells. Was hoping i can break it in with some 3 inch shells and than feed 2 3/4 in it.
        Any shotgun that will take 3" shells will also take 2-3/4" ones.

        And you should check with the club as some have fps limits for trap & skeet to keep shot drop in a particular area.


        If you are looking for a load to break in a semi-auto, try some 2-3/4" sporting clays loads - 1-1/8 oz @ 1300 fps

        Like these -
        Shopping for the Premier Nitro Sporting Clays, 12 Gauge, 8 Shot, 2-3/4 in, 1 1/8 oz, 1300 fps - Learn more about the latest Premier Nitro Sporting Clays and other hunting or shooting gear at Remington.


        or some pheasant loads but they are not usually available in 7.5 or smaller shot sizes ; #4 & #6
        Last edited by foxtrotuniformlima; 03-11-2025, 12:07 PM.
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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57136

          Originally posted by kid386
          I have a semi that only takes 3 inch shells.
          Was hoping i can break it in with some 3 inch shells and than feed 2 3/4 in it.
          Any 3" 12ga can shoot 2-3/4" shells as well.
          The length of the shell is not directly related to the power.
          You can have low or high power shells in any length.
          If you think it needs higher power shells for break-in, get some higher velocity 1-1/8oz 2-3/4" shells to break it in.
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          • #6
            kid386
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 93

            The A300 I own has had issues with feeding 2-3/4. Its been sent back to the manufacturer still having issues. The barrel unfortunately does say for 3 inch shells only. Last ditch effort is to only feed 3 inch shells to break it in.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57136

              I went and looked up A300 problems and there is a LOT of threads about it.
              The consensus is to break the gun in with a couple cases of full power (high dram regardless of length) shells before it will run light loads.
              If that won't help, there is an alternative A400 gas piston you might try.

              Your use of the word "feeding" is probably incorrect as the 1/4" case length difference does not matter one bit for feeding.
              You are likely having problems with cycling which is what should happen after you pull the trigger.

              What matters to get proper cycling is the power the shell has and if the gas system will harvest enough gas to cycle the action.
              There just are not many 3" shells with small shot because you can put more than enough small shot into 2-3/4" shells as shown above.
              What you need is more DRAMS of power to get your gun to cycle.

              The reason for 3" shells is to have more room for shot and powder.
              Those will generally come with more shot so look for 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 ounce loads to break the gun in.
              Feel free to shoot any 3" shells you like to break the gun in as there really are not many low-dram 3" shells.
              3" shells will have more DRAMS than the cheapest 2-3/4" shells you are probably having problems with.
              Promo/cheap shells are usually lower DRAM than better quality 2-3/4" shells.
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              • #8
                kid386
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 93

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                I went and looked up A300 problems and there is a LOT of threads about it.
                The consensus is to break the gun in with a couple cases of full power (high dram regardless of length) shells before it will run light loads.
                If that won't help, there is an alternative A400 gas piston you might try.

                Your use of the word "feeding" is probably incorrect as the 1/4" case length difference does not matter one bit for feeding.
                You are likely having problems with cycling which is what should happen after you pull the trigger.

                What matters to get proper cycling is the power the shell has and if the gas system will harvest enough gas to cycle the action.
                There just are not many 3" shells with small shot because you can put more than enough small shot into 2-3/4" shells as shown above.
                What you need is more DRAMS of power to get your gun to cycle.

                The reason for 3" shells is to have more room for shot and powder.
                Those will generally come with more shot so look for 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 ounce loads to break the gun in.
                Feel free to shoot any 3" shells you like to break the gun in as there really are not many low-dram 3" shells.
                3" shells will have more DRAMS than the cheapest 2-3/4" shells you are probably having problems with.
                Promo/cheap shells are usually lower DRAM than better quality 2-3/4" shells.
                You are correct, load 2 3/4 in the opening, press the bolt release, pull the trigger, and that's when the shell will not eject correctly and get stuck or it has loaded the spent casing back in the chamber. Finding a place that allows 3 inch steel shot is not easy here in So Cal. Thus was hoping I could shoot 3inch 7.5, 8, or 9 since the LA Clays allow those shot sizes. Good thing the A300 was a gift and I didn't spend money on it. My go to is a 500. Trusty pump shotgun is the way to go.

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57136

                  Originally posted by kid386

                  You are correct, load 2 3/4 in the opening, press the bolt release, pull the trigger, and that's when the shell will not eject correctly and get stuck or it has loaded the spent casing back in the chamber. Finding a place that allows 3 inch steel shot is not easy here in So Cal. Thus was hoping I could shoot 3inch 7.5, 8, or 9 since the LA Clays allow those shot sizes. Good thing the A300 was a gift and I didn't spend money on it. My go to is a 500. Trusty pump shotgun is the way to go.
                  How many rounds have you actually fired through it?
                  Have you properly cleaned it and oiled it?
                  The storage oil that comes on it is not good oil for actual use.
                  Shoot it as a single shot for a couple hundred rounds and when it starts reliably ejecting, it's probably ready to try it in semi-auto.

                  What exact model is your A300?
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                  • #10
                    kid386
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 93

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels

                    How many rounds have you actually fired through it?
                    Have you properly cleaned it and oiled it?
                    The storage oil that comes on it is not good oil for actual use.
                    Shoot it as a single shot for a couple hundred rounds and when it starts reliably ejecting, it's probably ready to try it in semi-auto.

                    What exact model is your A300?
                    Thoroughly cleaned gun smiths have complimented how clean the gun is. Gun has been taken to multiple gun smiths and the last one basically told me you just have to feed 3inch shells through it to break it in.
                    At least 50 2 3/4 shells ran through it flawlessly until it started the malfunction
                    After shooting it single shot with the bolt deciding to reload the spent casing back in the chamber, the bolt gets stuck and it takes two people to rip the barrel out of the receiver I will not be doing that again. Its happened twice already and I don't really want to do it again.

                    I can't recall what model it is.

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                    • #11
                      Thefeeder
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 5007

                      What 2 2/4" shells are you using ....sound like an ammo issue more than a gun issue. Try some Winchester AA ammo or Remington STS.

                      Try taking some of those fired shell cases, take the barrel off the gun and try to but them in the chamber.

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