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  • y-not
    Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 115

    Bullet weight effect

    I need to understand the effect of two different bullet weights using the same load specifications.
    Lets say I load a round for 45acp with a 200gr. RN bullet and using the same components (case, primer, powder, charge, and OAL) except using a 230gn bullet.
    Shooting from the same handgun
    What should I expect to happen ?
    The 230gr should be slower in fps, but because of the OAL of the bullet being longer than the 200gr. bullet, and seating it in the case with the same OAL as the 200gr. completed round, would that increase the fps ?

    I'm interested in cause and effect or "what if" thinking.

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    Sandspider500
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 1133

    When you seat a heavier bullet deeper in the case, and use load data for a lighter bullet you can expect an increase in pressure. Even if you take the same weight bullet, let's use your 200gr rn as an example, and stuff it in the case deeper but still use the same powder charge, velocity and pressure will increase.

    Why are you asking? This seems to be basic pistol hand loading info.
    Originally posted by Palmaris
    You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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      Sandspider500
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2018
      • 1133

      Hmmm
      Originally posted by Palmaris
      You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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        Sandspider500
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2018
        • 1133

        Something weird going on here........
        Originally posted by Palmaris
        You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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        • #5
          jimmykan
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 3074

          Buy the QuickLOAD software and experiment virtually to your heart's content:

          QuickLOAD Software for Windows PC ✔ Ballistic Quickload reloading software → Version 3.9 requires Windows XP or newer OS ✔ ballistic Software and Ballistic calculator.

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          • #6
            Spyder
            CGN Contributor
            • Mar 2008
            • 16827

            I've taken bulk 165/180 bullets and loaded them in 40 in bulk on the Dillon with no problems, and bulk mixed 115/124 bullets for 9mm. But I did research to find a safe load that was within book parameters for both of them, and it was all for pretty close steel target work where minor velocity variances didn't matter. I never chrono'd them so couldn't tell you which was faster.

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            • #7
              y-not
              Member
              • Aug 2013
              • 115

              Originally posted by Sandspider500
              When you seat a heavier bullet deeper in the case, and use load data for a lighter bullet you can expect an increase in pressure. Even if you take the same weight bullet, let's use your 200gr rn as an example, and stuff it in the case deeper but still use the same powder charge, velocity and pressure will increase.

              Why are you asking? This seems to be basic pistol hand loading info.
              I was just thinking about this "what if" situation while I was drinking my morning coffee watching the sun come up over the mountains.
              That's just my inner process improvement engineer mind at work. Looking at all the factors involved in making a finished round and what effect different components have on the performance of the round.
              I will probably stop thinking at a "standard" load and don't go down the rabbit hole of precision long distance ammo, even if it sounds interesting.
              Thanks for your verification of what happens.

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              • #8
                Sandspider500
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2018
                • 1133

                There was an equation made by vihtavuori powder company, it was in one of the lee reloading manuals, I forget which one. I'll look for it, but I think it was for bottle neck rifle cartridges.
                Originally posted by Palmaris
                You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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                • #9
                  Sandspider500
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 1133

                  Found it, Modern reloading by Richard Lee 1st edition page 105.
                  Originally posted by Palmaris
                  You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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