Reload 12ga all brass hulls?

[gottarollwithit]

Anybody ever reload 12 ga all brass hulls (just like the shells with pistol/rifle cartridges) As in these:

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=617690&t=11082005

I bought a box of these things and don't have any load data. This might be a crazy and stupid question, but as that the shell is all brass, is it safe to load it with a slug and no wad just like a pistol/rifle cartridge? I found a source of 12ga slugs and would like to use these solid brass hulls to make some cool loads. Any ideas?
My goal is to have modernized paradox cartridge. Almost like making ammo for an elephant gun. (And yea, i saw that it says "ideal for use with black powder)

[paradox]

Read this thread and be awed by the awesomeness of hubel458...

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=40465

[scrat]

Actually that thread is useless


Here is what you need to do. Its kinda new and old in one. You need to get some wads. The wads you need are the nitro cards and the filler cards.
Load standard powder. Then nitro card then filler cards. Then shot then you need to place one more card on top. There are a lot of different ideas on how to end it. Some will use wax type filler cards. Some will actually put elmers glue on the card to keep it in place. There is a lot of load data that you can use. It is all going to vary depending on the type of powder type of shot and the wads you use. a very good site to go get some proper information is on shotgunworld. here is a link

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewforum.php?f=13&sid=bce97e74861805544a31f6a255a61834