30-06 150gr Remington PSP Loading Data/Recipe?

[socalcustom]

I apologize if my googling skills have failed me, but I've had a hard time trying to find loading data for this round. The guides and personal recipes on the internet vary so much in powder loads that I'm weary of trying out a recipe without it specifically mentions this bullet. Does anyone have a recipe specific to this bullet?

Or, am I over thinking this? How much does one style of 150gr bullet differ from another of the same weight?

I bought a bag of 100 from Cabela's to reload. I'm just getting into precision shooting, so also interested if someone has any input on a good "beginner" load recipe. Trying to load a round so I can spend time at the range really practicing breathing and trigger control before I start to really dial in the best accuracy. Thanks.

[NotEnufGarage]

You're over thinking it. The powder manufacturers usually only list a few bullets of each weight, so all you can do is use on of those as a starting point and work up. You might subscribe to ammoguide and see if they have a more specific recipe to start with, but I'd bet it would be close to what the powder companies say.

[r3dn3ck]

Find any load for 150 grain bullets of the same profile, if you're using boat tail bullets find a load for those, etc.. then just start at the starting load. If you're not sure the my usual is to drop 2 full grains from the max load (for .30-06 size cases) and playing around there. If you see high pressure signs I'd be surprised as hell but you'll only see signs and you can then back the load off another grain or 2.

From my experience with ought-six loadings (I've done a lot) it won't matter a damned bit if you use data for a speer bullet or a hornady bullet or a sierra bullet or whathaveyou. Never one time has a different manufacturers bullet made a difference in anything but accuracy of the load in question.

It's not like if you load a different bullet it'll blow up.

[socalcustom]

Thanks guy. Felt like I was over thinking it, but just wanted to stay on the safe side.

R3dn3ck, just wondering if you found a recipe you really like for the 30-06 in 150 and 165 grain?

[Pete1979]

A moderate charge of 4064 will get you what you're after, I use 47-48gr but mine are on the light side. If you are after precision, after you shoot through this bag, try a good BTHP. 168gr sierra match kings #2200 seem to group good no matter what you put under them...

[Pete1979]

Copied from Hogdon's load data center

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon Suprform .308" 3.250" 60.0 2850 43,100 PSI 65.0C 3072 53,000 PSI

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H4350 .308" 3.250" 56.0 2792 37,100 CUP 62.0C 3068 48,400 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H414 .308" 3.250" 54.0 2753 40,500 CUP 60.0 2992 48,600 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4350 .308" 3.250" 54.0 2745 47,400 PSI 58.0C 2942 57,200 PSI

150 GR. NOS BT Winchester 760 .308" 3.250" 54.0 2792 40,500 CUP 60.0 2992 48,600 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 3.250" 52.4 2799 49,300 PSI 55.3 2972 58,000 PSI

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H380 .308" 3.250" 53.0 2798 40,200 CUP 59.0 3005 45,900 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon Varget .308" 3.250" 47.0 2808 42,600 CUP 51.0 2975 50,000 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4320 .308" 3.250" 49.0 2850 51,600 PSI 52.3 3016 58,000 PSI

150 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4064 .308" 3.250" 47.0 2743 49,000 PSI 51.0 2928 58,600 PSI

150 GR. NOS BT Winchester 748 .308" 3.250" 48.0 2810 46,000 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon BL-C(2) .308" 3.250" 49.0 2759 39,700 CUP 54.0 2962 48,600 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4895 .308" 3.250" 49.0 2856 49,400 PSI 53.0 3009 56,700 PSI

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H335 .308" 3.250" 47.0 2785 42,500 CUP 51.5 2982 49,200 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H4895 .308" 3.250" 46.0 2806 44,400 CUP 51.0 2976 48,500 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 3.250" 47.0 2797 50,500 PSI 50.0 2935 58,400 PSI

150 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 3031 .308" 3.250" 43.0 2697 47,600 PSI 46.7 2887 59,300 PSI

150 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon Benchmark .308" 3.250" 46.5 2792 44,600 CUP 49.5 2944 49,300 CUP

150 GR. NOS BT IMR Trail Boss .308" 3.250" 13.3 1061 14,700 PSI 19.0 1477 26,400 PSI

[Divernhunter]

I have tried many powders and IMR4064 has come out on top most times.

[socalcustom]

I was just looking over the hodgdon online load data and they all look to be boattail bullets listed. I don't think the remington bullets I purchased are boattail, they are the PSP-CL (pointed soft point core-lokt) bullets in 150gr (and I got ambitious and bought 165gr bullets too). Can I use this load data for these bullets?

From reading through multiple forum reviews and load data, I'm thinking of starting out with H4895. The pressure rating for this powder interests me to practice trigger control and breathing, seems like it would have less kick to consider and good muzzle velocity. Anyone have personal experiences with this powder?

[bruceflinch]

I load the Hornady 147's w/ 47 grn of H4895.

[r3dn3ck]

I'm a huge fan of 4064 and 4895 and Varget in .30-06. I've found in my 15+ years reloading that I tend to get the best accuracy and power combo with 1-1.5 grains under the rated max load. That isn't always the load that delivers tack driver accuracy but it's always been more accurate than a max pressure load. I almost never start 10% under max. I usually start 2 grains under max and load 5 rounds of each in .2gr charge increments until I get .5 grains from max. Take those to the range and pick the best two loads for further development. My first day of shooting a new gun is usually 25-40 rounds and almost always finds a hunting acceptable load.

If you want tack driver, you need to load it like one which means very precisely controlled powder charges, no crimp, and try to match brass.

My savage 110 makes its best groups exactly 1 grain under max with 4064 and 150gr flat base soft points. I had good luck with BL-C2 powder as well and it meters awesomely. The smell of the BL-C2 compared to any of my stick powders was pretty intense though. Smells like ... victory. For your 150gr bullets the load data at max will be a tit hot so I'd back down 1grain and work up looking for pressure signs. For the 165's no, you'll be enough overpressure to cause future problems and maybe present tense problems.

Google "IMR load data" and take the appropriate links. You'll be able to find 165gr load data for all the powders mentioned. IIRC 165's dropped the powder charge just a little like 1grain.

The one thing I'd really recommend for OP is a mentor. Someone with at least 10 years of practice and thousands of loads under their belt. You'll really learn a lot and it'll save you money, mistakes, pain and damage.

[rg1]

Google IMR powder pdf. and you will get IMR's Reloading Guide showing IMR powders and in some cases using Remington bullets. Here's the link and it does use Remington 150 grain bullets in 30-06. Note that these are maximum type loads and you should start 10% less and work up.

http://www.imrpowder.com/pdf/IMR_rifle.pdf

I use IMR 4350 powder with 150 grain bullets and I think you'd find a good load for your rifle using RP 150 grain bullets around 57-59 grains working up and looking for best accuracy.

[socalcustom]

Went to the range with 50 rounds loaded with 49gr of H4895, pushing 150gr Remington PSPCL bullets. Very big fan of the H4895. Used some Winchester Super-X 150gr rounds to sight in the rifle and was pleasantly surprised by the reduction of recoil with H4895 reload. Can't give the best field report on consistency as it was extremely windy in Piru on Sunday. But when the wind did die down, these were very accurate and consistent.

Going to buy a Hornady Classic Deluxe reloading kit to reload at home rather than having to go to my friend's place every time. Any reviews on this press?

Also, what kind of primers do you like for your 30-06? I hear a lot of people talking about Federal 210's. Any reviews on those or other primers, gold medal or champion?