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  • The SoCal Gunner
    Veteran Member
    • May 2006
    • 3319

    Running ammunition through a pistol question

    When you run ammunition through a pistol to test for feeding issues, can working the action somehow push the bullet further back into its casing?

    Maybe it is just my Blazer Brass in .45acp because I found 2 rounds from different boxes with the bullet seated further back into the casing. The thing is, I don't know whether it was like that to begin with or after I ran them through the pistol.

    I'm guessing it is unsafe to shoot these.
  • #2
    PLINK
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 1773

    Yes, it is called bullet set back.

    When the bullet is pushed back into the case, it changes the over all length. This usually increases case pressure.

    I personally would not fire those rounds just to be safe.

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    • #3
      mothergreen
      Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 474

      repeaded chambering of the same round will cause bullet setback and can be dangerous. do not fire them. I've come across a few that were badly setback new from the factory. its always something to watch out for.

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      • #4
        Stanze
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3301

        Originally posted by mothergreen
        repeaded chambering of the same round will cause bullet setback and can be dangerous. do not fire them. I've come across a few that were badly setback new from the factory. its always something to watch out for.


        In hindsight, I'm glad my friend's HK USP .40 jammed, he reloads em' hot and if that extremely set-back round chambered and fired. It could of been a different way more exciting kaboom video!
        Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

        "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin


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        • #5
          mothergreen
          Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 474

          damn, lucky it didn't feed.

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          • #6
            Buford
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 48

            Originally posted by lilxboi
            When you run ammunition through a pistol to test for feeding issues, can working the action somehow push the bullet further back into its casing?


            I'm guessing it is unsafe to shoot these.

            It happened while being cycled through the action. Yes it can drastically raise chamber pressures.

            Here is some Blazer 45 ammo with the same issues. This was caused by being chambered several times.

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            • #7
              The SoCal Gunner
              Veteran Member
              • May 2006
              • 3319

              I've don't recall ever having this problem with any other caliber, but then I have never used Blazer Brass in any other caliber.

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              • #8
                Buford
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 48

                Originally posted by lilxboi
                I've don't recall ever having this problem with any other caliber, but then I have never used Blazer Brass in any other caliber.
                It's not a problem, just something to think about with your self defense ammo. Mine got like that because the kids wanted to handle the 45 so I remove the mag remove the chambered round and put it back in the magazine. And I did this several times before I realized what was happening.

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                • #9
                  mothergreen
                  Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 474

                  thats why when you unchamber a round in your sd gun you unload your whole mag place that round at the bottom and reload it. when the first round (last round) reaches the top its time to shoot it at the range and buy more ammo.

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                  • #10
                    Buford
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 48

                    Originally posted by mothergreen
                    thats why when you unchamber a round in your sd gun you unload your whole mag place that round at the bottom and reload it. when the first round (last round) reaches the top its time to shoot it at the range and buy more ammo.

                    Learning something new all the time.

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                    • #11
                      mothergreen
                      Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 474

                      I learned that little tid bit on glock talk heh. gun boards are a great place for learnin heh.

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                      • #12
                        4D5auto
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 706

                        Not enough crimp.
                        NRA Life Member

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                        • #13
                          Buford
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 48

                          Originally posted by 4D5auto
                          Not enough crimp.
                          You can only get so much crimp on a round the head spaces on the case mouth.

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                          • #14
                            COILSPRING
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 845

                            Winchester Silvertips in .45acp have the same tendency as well...

                            Originally posted by lilxboi
                            I've don't recall ever having this problem with any other caliber, but then I have never used Blazer Brass in any other caliber.
                            I've noticed that Winchester Silvertips have the same tendency to set back after chambering... So much that I no longer shoot them. Weak crimps? I do not know but I don't like the idea. Perhaps it doesn't take repeated chamberings? I really wouldn't want to be witness to a "truly massive display of kenetic energy" (as Bugs Bunny would say...).

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                            • #15
                              The SoCal Gunner
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2006
                              • 3319

                              Would the bullet being set back cause an increase in pressure greater than +p and +p+ ammunition? I'd really like to know for sure if they would cause any trouble but of course I won't try it for myself.

                              Maybe I'll email a manufacturer.

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