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  • fastpowerstroker
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 420

    .38 wadcutter?

    Anybody load 38 special wc? My speer manual says to seat flush with case mouth but I made some practice rounds and left them a 1/16" high. Or should I seat completely flush? The bullet is a 148 west coast plated wc with a cannelure. The cannelure is where I seated the dummy rounds. Oal is 1.235. What does everyone else do?
  • #2
    stand125
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 1451

    I seat mine flush with the case mouth and a very slight roll crimp.
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    • #3
      Sheldon
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2147

      I've done it both ways.....both worked fine. Some autos require the flush seat to feed, but wheelguns don't care.

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      • #4
        dougtoni
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 634

        I like to flush set them, then put a sliet roll crimp on the each, so they will slide into the holes better. Either way is fine though.
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        • #5
          ireload
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2589

          Either way will work fine. I went through my WC phase when I first started loading .38spl.

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          • #6
            Jack1939
            Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 122

            I use the bear creek supply lead 148g DEWC and when I loaded it flush it was less accurate then when I seated them out to the crimp grove at 1.237". Of course it is different for every gun but my thinking is it is good to experiment, I mean that is why we reload, right?

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            • #7
              scarville
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Feb 2009
              • 2325

              I use Xtreme DEWC's and I found seating them a little long to work better. I seat it to the cannelure and put a taper crimp on it. OAL is about 1.22".

              YMMV.
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              • #8
                Bill Steele
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 5028

                Originally posted by scarville
                I use Xtreme DEWC's and I found seating them a little long to work better. I seat it to the cannelure and put a taper crimp on it. OAL is about 1.22".

                YMMV.
                That is what I do as well, except I use lead DEWC's.
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                • #9
                  XDRoX
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4420

                  I also don't seat all the way down.
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                  • #10
                    meaty-btz
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 8980

                    Are we talking bevel-base wad cutters or Hollow-base Wad Cutters? HBWC should be seated to the lip because of the extra space beneath them. BBWC should be seated to the cannalure.
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                    • #11
                      TakeFive
                      Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 157

                      Also, HBWC should be seated flush for use in self loaders such as the Smith & Wesson Model 52 and some 1911's. That's probably why the manuals say to flush seat.
                      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, in practice, there is.

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                      • #12
                        fastpowerstroker
                        Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 420

                        Yes bevel base not hollow base. Thanks guys!

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                        • #13
                          fastpowerstroker
                          Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 420

                          I'll get a pic up tonight of the bullet to show you guys exactly. Looks like XDrocs pic.

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                          • #14
                            huckberry668
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1502

                            38 cal WC bullets are usually soft swaged lead bullets with 90 degree edge on both ends. The edge is easily damaged if seated above the case mouth even for the plated and hardcast ones. Seat them flush for semi or revolvers... if you want accuracy.
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                            • #15
                              ireload
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2589

                              Originally posted by XDRoX
                              I also don't seat all the way down.

                              Off topic here Chris, but you pic is showing a hand drawn circle. What gives? Bulge maybe?

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