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  • NotEnufGarage
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2010
    • 4832

    Mixing powder batches

    I have about six 1 lb jugs of IMR3031 that I want to work up some .308 and .30-06 match loads with. Half of them are fairly recent production and the other half are the older metal cans. One jug of each (old and new) are partial, so it's probably really about 5 lbs.

    To maximize my consitency and eliminate having to work up the loads twice, would it be safe to mix it all together, blend it well and work up the load once with the hope of having consistency for all of it? I'm thinking I'd dump it all into a large tupperware, mix it gently with a wood or plastic spoon, with the tupperware and me both being grounded to eliminate any possible static discharge, outside of course, with hand, face and head protection.
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    XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    Certain powders are known to be different from lot to lot. I don't know if 3031 is one of them. But I personally see no problem in doing what you're proposing. I mix different lots every time I open a new can and have never had a problem.
    Chris
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    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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    • #3
      bruceflinch
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 40127

      Pour em in a Blender & put on Puree!
      Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

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      • #4
        NotEnufGarage
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Oct 2010
        • 4832

        Originally posted by bruceflinch
        Pour em in a Blender & put on Puree!
        Should I do that with a cigar burnin' in my lips? LOL

        Don't think I'll quite do that, but maybe just shake 'em in a big plastic tub.
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        • #5
          Clownpuncher
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 1176

          While I have never mixed that particular type/brand, I routinely open a new can and throw in what was left out of the old one. Never had an issue.
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          • #6
            meaty-btz
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 8980

            If you are concerned about vast variances between the batches then all you need do is blend the batches evenly to create a "consistent" value. Consistency matters more than any specific value. You need predictive and consistent data to build safe loads. Variances are dangerous but only if unpredictable.
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            • #7
              XDRoX
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 4420

              Sometimes when I run out of Unique I mix up some Bullseye and 2400. Pretty much the same thing.
              Chris
              <----Rimfire Addict


              Originally posted by Oceanbob
              Get a DILLON...

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              • #8
                lpspinner
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 1164

                The last of my Titegroup always ends up in the new bottle of the same.
                Some guys like their powder like their women, hot, cheap, dirty, that would be TiteGroup. -CocoBolo

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                • #9
                  toby
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 10576

                  I do not add,mix,combine,alter, and after 30 years of reloading I still have all my fingers.

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                  • #10
                    Beelzy
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 9224

                    NEVER mix powder of different lots......I do believe it is so written in reloading manuals.
                    "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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                    • #11
                      wtkaiser
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 660

                      While it might seem harmless to do, it's pretty much true that it is written in the manuals not to. And while many guys here obviously do it, I think they're playing the odds and someday, well, who knows? Any batch of powder WILL be different than any other batch. Different enough to cause the intricate chain of events that evolves in normal combustion? Again, who knows? You're only going to find out when you pull the trigger.
                      In fact, I do believe the manuals will tell you to go back to square one and start developing the load all over again if you get a new lot. You know, that old rule "...ANY change in components..."
                      So call me a worry wort, but I wouldn't do it. Look at 2400 - it got a smidgen faster a few years ago and some loads had to be tamed down to stay within SAAMI specs. Of course, if anybody considers SAAMI specs more of a "guideline", that's fine...just shoot well away from me, thank you very much.
                      Last edited by wtkaiser; 03-03-2012, 5:07 PM. Reason: Spelling

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                      • #12
                        fatfreadiescat
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 669

                        mixing

                        Originally posted by XDRoX
                        Sometimes when I run out of Unique I mix up some Bullseye and 2400. Pretty much the same thing.
                        This is the one that freaked me out.

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                        • #13
                          skibuff
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 617

                          So all you guys that don't mix your SAME type of powders out of fear batch to batch is so different, do you start at minimum loads everytime you open a new batch of powder and work up again?

                          This is in refrence to commercial powders only not mil surplus.

                          Not a refrence to mixing bullseye and 2400 either I'm not on board with that but if it works safe for him I'm cool with it.

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                          • #14
                            fatfreadiescat
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 669

                            Same number same company no problem,
                            making your own home brew, see you in emergency.
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                            Maybe three.

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                            • #15
                              Bill Steele
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 5028

                              Mixing different lots of the same powder is fine. I have observed some differences from lot to lot of some particular brands, but nothing that would require working up new load data when opening a new bottle of the same commercial powder.

                              Maybe some didn't get the joke, but nobody in their right mind mixes different powders.
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