200-230 grn fn .45 issues

[yoitsbruce]

getting clambering problems in pistols when using these bullets. trying to adjust the oal between 1.178"-1.235" with no luck. i chamber and load a sample round, cycles fine but when @ the range. they get hung up in sa 1911, p220 ~ 65% fire with glock they fire 80%

[gau17]

Did you check the crimp?

[Bill Steele]

A little more detail about the feed failures you are getting will help on solving your problems. Typical feed failures include the nose of the round sticking on the feed ramp "diving" and failing to feed. Another is the nose sticking partway into the chamber with the waist of the brass hanging up on the break at the mouth of the chamber. Another is the gun failing to go into battery when the bullet jams in the lands, etc. etc.

Knowing this information will greatly improve the quality of the advice you get.

[Justintoxicated]

Take the barrel out of the gun, and drop the reloaded round into the chamber and see if everything lines up correctly. It should be ever so slightly recessed in the chamber.

Or maybe your gun just does not like fn bullets?

[yoitsbruce]

the crimp is @.469" the bullets do fall right into the chamber. but after shooting the pistol fails to go into battery. i am holding off on getting hollow points until i know why they are not functioning well. the lyman book does state that some 1911's only function well with round nose ball ammo but i do like to use flat nosed projo's. but it does seem to hit the lands where the pistols cant transfer enough energy to properly get the bullet into battery. what oal lengths have you guys tried for these types of projo's?

[pdq_wizzard]

I run 1.199 on my 200gr. and they work great on my 1911.

how many rounds have been through the guns you are trying to use these in? A friend of my has an XD that would not cycle them until he had 500+ rounds down the pipe.

[Bill Steele]

the crimp is @.469" the bullets do fall right into the chamber. but after shooting the pistol fails to go into battery. i am holding off on getting hollow points until i know why they are not functioning well. the lyman book does state that some 1911's only function well with round nose ball ammo but i do like to use flat nosed projo's. but it does seem to hit the lands where the pistols cant transfer enough energy to properly get the bullet into battery. what oal lengths have you guys tried for these types of projo's?

Your crimp is good, I use .469-.470 for my most finicky bullets (SWC's).

The failure to go into battery (failure in the last 1/8-1/4") is usually the bullet hanging up on the chamber ledge or jamming into the lands, so loading it shorter (and lighter powder charge, if required) is probably the answer. This happens to me when loading flat points (like truncated cone style, not round nose FP's), Hornaday XTP's (sharp shoulder) or SWC's when I let the shelf where the bearing surface of the bullet ends, gets too high above the case mouth, etc.

For this kind of an issue, I would recommend not getting XTP's for JHP's. Gold Dots are more forgiving when these are issues loading for certain guns/calibers (mainly .45ACP).

[puRe59]

I recently loaded some XTP jhp's @ OAL=1.230" and crimp @ .473". Shot through my DW Valor just fine.

[yoitsbruce]

ok ill keep the oal 1.199"~1.230 im using 5.5gr of win231 ill work a load down to 4.7 to see if this will workout. thanks for the knowledge. it does seem to hang up on the chamber ledge and jamming on the lands. i just want to find the happy medium for most of my pistols. is it me or is the 45 more finicky than 9mm & 40sw

[BigBronco]

I can't get my 1911 to feed them I have given up and it is RN for me.

[Chief-7700]

Have you gunsmith throat the barrel.

[Bill Steele]

ok ill keep the oal 1.199"~1.230 im using 5.5gr of win231 ill work a load down to 4.7 to see if this will workout. thanks for the knowledge. it does seem to hang up on the chamber ledge and jamming on the lands. i just want to find the happy medium for most of my pistols. is it me or is the 45 more finicky than 9mm & 40sw

Yes, definitely more finicky than 9mm and .40. I don't even chamber check my 9mm when loading lead, of any profile, even for my EMP which is the closest thing you will find to a finicky 1911 in a 9mm.

For a few of my .45ACP 1911's (is there any other kind?), when loading lead, I have to chamber check with my least common denominator barrel as some profiles will even chamber in my Wilson gauge and not chamber in that gun's barrel.

Not to try and be discouraging, but you can run into problems feeding with the round too short in a different way, like jamming part way into the chambering process. This can be helped sometimes by just taking the sharp break that usually exists between the chamber mouth and the chamber (in a 1911). If you decide to go this route, check out the Wilson Combat youtube videos on how they do it, very helpful. This problem is also usually helped also by crimping down like you are now.

Some fun.

[chim-chim7]

Buy a case gauge for every caliber you reload.

[Blademan21]

Have you gunsmith throat the barrel.

^^What Chief said. Tussey did mine and it can chamber empty brass stripped from a mag. That is reliability at its maxium.

[gef]

Get a Lee factory crimp die, they are cheap and if it works your good to go. But if not you may need to have a throat job done one the barrel to make it reliable with that type of bullet.