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  • filric48
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 324

    Tumble or Deprime:

    What should you do first tumble or deprime & size? Just got a tumbler before that just new brass, I loaded some 303 british the other day for the first time now I'm hooked. I'm retired so I went with the single stage it is allot of fun, so what do I do first?
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    92greenyj
    Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 96

    Well I have done both. I found that small bits of media will get stuck in the spent primers when tumbling first. This small media bits ends up all over the place afterwards while brass is jostled and handled. Now I deprive first, then tumble. Media falls right thru the flash hole and has nothing to really get stuck in this way.
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    • #3
      wtkaiser
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 660

      I've had media stuck in primer holes every time when I deprime before tumbling, so now I tumble first, then deprime. Any junk gets pushed through the hole when you deprime it second. Just my 2 cents....

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      • #4
        CEDaytonaRydr
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 4141

        Originally posted by 92greenyj
        Now I deprive first, then tumble. Media falls right thru the flash hole and has nothing to really get stuck in this way.
        I have media get stuck in my flash holes every time I deprime first.

        Nowadays, I tumble and then deprime...

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        • #5
          NotEnufGarage
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Oct 2010
          • 4832

          For rifle brass, I tumble with walnut for an hour or two to remove dirt and carbon, then deprime, resize, trim, chamfer and de-crimp primer pockets (if needed), then tumble again with fine corn cob and NuFinish, then clean flash holes with a pick, if needed while I'm sorting by headstamp and weight.

          For straightwall handgun brass, I tumble in a walnut and corn cob mix with NuFinish for about 4 hours, then dump it into the Load Master for depriming, sizing and loading.

          The point of tumbling is to clean the cases. I don't want my dies getting all torn up with dirt and carbon.
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          • #6
            92greenyj
            Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 96

            Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
            I have media get stuck in my flash holes every time I deprime first.

            Nowadays, I tumble and then deprime...
            I will admit I have had a few instances of this at first. However when I cleared the flash hole I made sure to not put that particular grain of walnut shell back into the tumbler. Last three batches I ran didn't have anything in the flash holes at all
            Household Arsenal:
            Mossberg 500 .410, Mossberg 500 12 gauge (2 of em), Mossberg 100 ATR .270 caliber, Armalite AR-7 .22lr, Savage 93 .17HMR, Marlin Lever Action Colt 45 rifle, Beretta revolver 45 Colt, Ruger P90T in 45 ACP
            Smith & Wesson 22A

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            • #7
              Divernhunter
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2010
              • 8753

              I tumble then deprime. When I have deprimed first I get media in the pockets/flashhole. I also want my brass clean before depriming so not to get crud in the dies.
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              • #8
                bruceflinch
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 40127

                Since I'm not dealing w/ hundreds of rifle cases. I like to:
                Tumble
                Lube & deprime/neck size/full length resize.
                Tumble
                Clean flash holes & clean primer pocket on brush in drill press.
                Reprime
                Load
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                • #9
                  Munk
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 2124

                  For pistol rounds, I tumble, then use the Decapper/Sizing die, and proceed as normal.

                  For rifle. I decap with a decap only die(for the sake of expedience), tumble for quite a while (all of my .30's get filthy brass). Then lube them up and send them through the full length size/decap die. As I do, I check to make sure that all the cob was popped out of the primer pocket. I've gotten a few pockets where it wasn't just a kernel in the flash hole, the entire primer pocket got this weird cluster of cob, and even the decapper doesn't push it out entirely. I usually use a hand-held decapping rod from an old lee hand-loader kit, or a lee (man, I use a surprising number of lee products that go into the flash hole) trimming tool pilot for the same effect.

                  Every other firing, I make sure to clean the primer pocket well with a dremel tool using a wire brush attachment. Makes damn fast work of cleaning it out, and the brush is strong enough to get the worst of the grit out.
                  Originally posted by greasemonkey
                  1911's instill fairy dust in the bullets, making them more deadly.

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                  • #10
                    wtkaiser
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 660

                    So, basically OP, you just do what you want to do and deal with it. Ask 1 question, get 7 different answers!

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                    • #11
                      mjmagee67
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 2771

                      Rifle-I deprime, tumble, resize, tumble again to remove the case lube, pick out media from primer pocket and reload. I tend to only do 50 to 100 at a time.

                      Pistol--Tumble first then deprime and reload.

                      For rifle I deprime first to the primer pockets can get cleaned up a little--pistol just don't care it the pockets are clean.
                      If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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                      • #12
                        krzgoat
                        Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 408

                        I generally tumble all brass clean and shiny the first time around. Pistol brass just heads off to be sorted prior to loading.

                        Rifle I resize and deprime and then tumble the lube off with a finer grit media. I think it's 24 grit from Harbor Freight. No problems with media in the primer holes I check while I sort by headstamp.

                        Next is decrimp the rifle pockets that need it and then clean the pockets out. Then it's off either to the press to be loaded or the hand primer depending on what I am loading.

                        I also use the NuFinish polish in mine.

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                        • #13
                          gef
                          Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 251

                          I use a depriming die first, that doesn't resize. Yes if you deprime first the primer pocket gets filled with media. I use an ice pick to punch this out or you can use the depriming die again and in most cases the pocket is clean. Then resize and load as normal. One thing I use is CSI gloves to keep my hands clean while handling the brass. The polish gets all over your hands otherwise.

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                          • #14
                            mjmagee67
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2771

                            The Lee case trimmer pilots make great flash hole cleaners.
                            If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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                            • #15
                              Munk
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 2124

                              Originally posted by mjmagee67
                              The Lee case trimmer pilots make great flash hole cleaners.
                              Yep. I made a knob for the handle on mine (pinching that half inch handle is painful after 30 or 40 .30-06 cases). When I'm dealing with cob in the hole, I just throw the lee-trimmer in the vice on my workbench so I have a rock-solid fixed tool for working from. Makes damn short work of it.
                              Originally posted by greasemonkey
                              1911's instill fairy dust in the bullets, making them more deadly.

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